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I witnessed one lad whack a cod over the head at least 4 times , the fish was still twitching before the last whallop.

Have you seen the fillets if the fish hasn't been bled, you wouldn't buy it off a fish counter thats for sure.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Have you seen the fillets if the fish hasn't been bled, you wouldn't buy it off a fish counter thats for sure.

 

Certainly i have. Especially mackeral :o

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Ok, most of us appear to believe fish probably do experience some kind of pain and distress at being caught, but we choose to do it anyway because for whatever reason we enjoy it.

 

The original question was also about killing fish that were suffering and were probably going to die as a result of getting caught. Not fish that were necessarily destined for the pot.

 

So in this scenario we have hooked a fish which probably caused it pain, played it in which probably caused it more pain and distress, and accidentally injured it so badly we think it will slowly die. I just find it odd that everything up to this point is taken as red, and it's the next part that's the contentious bit. We weren't trying to catch it for food remember, we were hoping to put it back. So I still don't see why, given everything that's happened up to now, we should get all dewy eyed or irate about whether or not to smack it on the head or stick a knife into it.

 

If we really did care about not allowing it (and all the others that were returned ok) to suffer unneccessarily, we wouldn't be trying to hook them in the first place, would we?

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Ok, most of us appear to believe fish probably do experience some kind of pain and distress at being caught, but we choose to do it anyway because for whatever reason we enjoy it.

 

The original question was also about killing fish that were suffering and were probably going to die as a result of getting caught. Not fish that were necessarily destined for the pot.

 

So in this scenario we have hooked a fish which probably caused it pain, played it in which probably caused it more pain and distress, and accidentally injured it so badly we think it will slowly die. I just find it odd that everything up to this point is taken as red, and it's the next part that's the contentious bit. We weren't trying to catch it for food remember, we were hoping to put it back. So I still don't see why, given everything that's happened up to now, we should get all dewy eyed or irate about whether or not to smack it on the head or stick a knife into it.

 

If we really did care about not allowing it (and all the others that were returned ok) to suffer unneccessarily, we wouldn't be trying to hook them in the first place, would we?

 

If we assume that fish do feel pain and that we might cause them distress by catching them but accept that and go fishing anyway that still does not justify compounding the offence by returning a mortally injured fish to die slowly when it is within our power to prevent it.

Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

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Certainly i have. Especially mackeral :o

 

 

you tart

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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If we assume that fish do feel pain and that we might cause them distress by catching them but accept that and go fishing anyway that still does not justify compounding the offence by returning a mortally injured fish to die slowly when it is within our power to prevent it.

 

i think it does

 

its either wrong to cause them pain or distress or its not

 

i was thinking anglers fished and just accepted that to do what we do it will be unconfortable for the fishes but hay ho

 

i must be wrong its only acceptable to let them have some sort of distress but not all

 

i hope the fish can tell how lucky they are to be spared the drawn out slow death, i wonder if they reflect on that the next time they are dragged around on a hook

 

what utter foolishness

 

is the componding it lketting any of them go

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Fish don't feel pain.

 

so why do they sell priests if they dont feel the pain :rolleyes:

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If we assume that fish do feel pain and that we might cause them distress by catching them but accept that and go fishing anyway that still does not justify compounding the offence by returning a mortally injured fish to die slowly when it is within our power to prevent it.

 

Why's that then?

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azrael,

 

To fend off hooligans or simply a traditional way to kill fish. They are not used the world over. What does one have to do with the other?

 

Sportsman,

 

I'm with others? Extroplate your thoughts to the nth degree. You're making no sense AT ALL!

 

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