Radovan Karadzic captured

[chesters1]

yes he did and with the backing of his people as well ,we only got **** of with germany when they went into poland remember .

had we let them get on with their little wars we wouldnt have bankrupted britain.hitler had only respect for britain not thought of invasion infact he did his hardest to stop us getting involved by recrossing the channel.

if foreigners let their countries get invaded then its their lookout if religion gets involved and gets attention its their lookout

if we had a million foreigners come across the channel back then it would be called an invasion now its called immigration but foreigners are still here plotting and undermining us just as they would have done in ww2 ,back then any means would have been used to keep them out no doubt far worse than that chap captured recently did.we had suicide squads in ww2 ,we "took no prisoners" (i.e executed) in many incursions as did the americans whats the difference ....oh yes !we won so are faultless

oh yes the jews ,strange how the pope encouraged it ,40 to 50 million people died in ww2 6 million is a tiny amount but historically its that % that seem to be remembered as the hard done by lot.we ethnically cleansed them for 400 years and if you look it up its where the word holocaust actually originates ,you name it britains killed it or cleansed it historically but ofcourse only recent history is remembered! past misdemeanour's are overlooked ,we had "hitlers" just as every other country did including america and their ethnic cleansing of the native population

if we cant use any means why the fook do we have nukes ,why invent a better bomb why not just invite them over to start interfering in our country ,darn we already DO

Edited July 24, 2008 by chesters1

[Tony U]

"strange all the fuss about a chap who kills "invading" (albeit very slowly by stealth) Muslims" I don't understand this statement Chesters, The Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) are as much a part of the Bosnian community as the Serbs or the Croats and have been for hundreds of years, they are certainly not Alabanians.

Karadzic orchestrated a campaign of terror on his fellow countrymen to justify his own warped sense of nationalism, that is why he is being extradited to face trial for war crimes, also I don't think the Srebrenica Massacre or the Siege of Sarajevo were particularly stealthy.

Edited July 24, 2008 by Tony U

[chesters1]

probably retribution for past tirades from the others ,i was referring to kosova mostly but the balkans has a history of disputed territory hence all the fuss ,i cant see anything wrong with cleansing of any sort after all it maybe good over here on occasion.

theres problems locally with religeous invasions this week at alton (it use to be here!) if they were removed by any means the problem would go away.

were to "civilised" nowadays but in the past it wouldnt have been tolerated why the change?

i dont swan over to their countries to cause a fuss why should i be expected to let them do it to me ,strange

the seige of Sarajevo was a result of a bit of ethnic cleansing being tried ,who would win i wouldnt have given a damn all the time their killing each other we get overlooked .

the albania "problem" meant we got lots of albanian "refugees" of douptful virtue ,the quicker they killed each other the bettera

and bringing a couple of shady geezers up before the beak wont stop the hate just under the surface infact it may encourage a bit.

so long as people dont walk up my path or disturb me they can do whatever they like to each other here or on planet earth as a whole ,its none of my business

Edited July 24, 2008 by chesters1

[five bellies]

strange all the fuss about a chap who kills "invading" (albeit very slowly by stealth) muslims yet we invade a country that really belongs to them and kill far more ,strange why blair and bush aren't infront of the same court

the clue is in "ethnic" albanians ie they originate in albania why put on trial someone who wishes to keep foreigners out had it been done long ago there wouldnt be the majority there is now.

no matter they still hate each other and will despite being "given" a complete country will kill each other for another 800 years.

i'v only respect for someone who loves his country so much any means are used to keep johny foreigner out either for ethnic or damn me for saying it religious grounds.

we can see first hand in the Uk how things change when foreign ways try to manipulate the state or change the residents ways of life to suit theres !!!!there's was on a huge scale compared to ours

if all countries stopped foreigners or foreign influence "invading" most would be far more stable than they are now! the UK especially ,i'm not saying better but more stable.if we stopped sticking our noses in others business we certainly would be better off!

 

if foreigners want to slaughter each other why should we go to the expense (in money and our young mens lives) of doing it for them rather than letting them do it for themselves

or worse going to the expense (in money and our young mens lives) of stopping them doing it

our war criminals are in plain veiw snubbing their noses at the world,genocide is not unknown to the west infact we are very good at it and ethnic cleansing a speciality ,not only that we make a very nice living supplying the means to do it either through advice or materials of war.

why cant people use any means to protect their country ? whats the difference in lining up those that threaten them and shooting them or dropping bombs from high altitude the results the same or is it bombing means its "cleaner" ? there are no rules in war only losers ,i think he should get community service probably just like he would over here.

the balkans have a history of genocide bringing a couple of small scale players before a court wont make the slightest difference it will go on!! hate boils to the surface on the slightest excuse

 

 

You are joking arnt you?

 

For once I cant even summun the will to argue back Chesters,if that post is an incite into what you realy believe its worrying.HE HAD HIS OWN FU_KING POEPLE MURDERD IN WAY THAT MADE HARDEND SOLDIERS WEEP... And you admire that?

 

Good god man have you lost the plot compleatly.

Edited July 24, 2008 by five bellies

[John S]

Heil Chesters

[Peter M]

Chesters I assumed that you were trying to be ironic and pointing out the hypocrisy when one is called a war criminal yet the acts of the leaders of countries like ours and the US(Iraq, Vietnam etc. indiscriminate bombings of civilians and so on) are not treated the same way. I hope that’s what you are trying to do.

 

Karadzic and his cronies deserve the face up to their crimes

[chesters1]

Chesters I assumed that you were trying to be ironic and pointing out the hypocrisy when one is called a war criminal yet the acts of the leaders of countries like ours and the US(Iraq, Vietnam etc. indiscriminate bombings of civilians and so on) are not treated the same way. I hope that's what you are trying to do.

 

Karadzic and his cronies deserve the face up to their crimes

in the main its exactly what i'm trying to say ,but admiration for people who wish to keep their country clean from outsiders and their strange ways also.

remember very few "leaders" actually pull the trigger themselves and since 1945 the excuse of "following orders" no longer is an excuse so if you indite Karadzic you then have to indite the army as a whole ,without a great number of people supporting a leader they could never be a leader.

the same goes for any army just "following orders" isnt an excuse to kill nor is it an excuse to commit crimes in the name of a leader because its an excuse to commit a crime for your agenda as happened in many cases i'm sure (well documented in hitlers reign),whether Karadzic said go and mass murder xxxx is unknown perhaps his subordinate gave the orders ? perhaps a group of soldiers did it for fun off their own backs who knows ,and ofcourse the general population is just as guilty do Moslem's have moslem tattooed on their forehead no the general public point them out then look the other way when they are carted off ,its not one person its a complete ethnic problem!!!

i have no problem though using any means keeping an invader out of a country if it involves genocide so be it but the balkans has a chequered past of genocide on all sides so it becomes commonplace thus not of importance to anyone outside of the balkans so let them get on with it.

america has made its troops above international law which hides away whats going on perhaps we have mass graves of prisoners! your not going to be told only time will tell if ofcourse any evidence is left

 

in iraq are "insurgents" and "terrorists" no more than freedom fighters and paid foreign soldiers using any means to keep the invader out are they so different to what we would do if iraq had invaded us???? they too are trying to keep foreign ways and meddling out of their country but with american influence in 130 countries historically they havn't a chance

Edited July 25, 2008 by chesters1

[five bellies]

in the main its exactly what i'm trying to say ,but admiration for people who wish to keep their country clean from outsiders and their strange ways also.

remember very few "leaders" actually pull the trigger themselves and since 1945 the excuse of "following orders" no longer is an excuse so if you indite Karadzic you then have to indite the army as a whole ,without a great number of people supporting a leader they could never be a leader.

the same goes for any army just "following orders" isnt an excuse to kill nor is it an excuse to commit crimes in the name of a leader because its an excuse to commit a crime for your agenda as happened in many cases i'm sure (well documented in hitlers reign),whether Karadzic said go and mass murder xxxx is unknown perhaps his subordinate gave the orders ? perhaps a group of soldiers did it for fun off their own backs who knows ,and ofcourse the general population is just as guilty do Moslem's have moslem tattooed on their forehead no the general public point them out then look the other way when they are carted off ,its not one person its a complete ethnic problem!!!

i have no problem though using any means keeping an invader out of a country if it involves genocide so be it but the balkans has a chequered past of genocide on all sides so it becomes commonplace thus not of importance to anyone outside of the balkans so let them get on with it.

america has made its troops above international law which hides away whats going on perhaps we have mass graves of prisoners! your not going to be told only time will tell if ofcourse any evidence is left

 

 

A very Daily mail over simplistic view of the world,

many of the Killings in the balkans where carried out by militias with utra nationalist views wich kept soldiers hands clean, Srebrenica, (sp) being differant and carried out By regular army.These Militias had there roots in the the serb eqiuvilant of the BNP wich just happend to be run by Karadzic, these are the same militias that turned up in Kosavo the White wolves being one of the militias in question, Many a campian political/religous and ethnic has been waged between groups without resulting to Genocide,inexcusable to me all the same, you have drawn a picture of the Balkans that never existed of a bigoted sociaty full of poeple with murderous intent towards there niehbours, Yugoslavia was a cosmopolitan country the cracks down ethnic lines happend becase its easy to proliferate hate when times are hard this was the case when communisum left a vacum,You havent mentioned the mass Rape

 

plus the murder of children are these acceptable in your admirable war for racial purity

[chesters1]

A very Daily mail over simplistic view of the world,

many of the Killings in the balkans where carried out by militias with utra nationalist views wich kept soldiers hands clean, Srebrenica, (sp) being differant and carried out By regular army.These Militias had there roots in the the serb eqiuvilant of the BNP wich just happend to be run by Karadzic, these are the same militias that turned up in Kosavo the White wolves being one of the militias in question, Many a campian political/religous and ethnic has been waged between groups without resulting to Genocide,inexcusable to me all the same, you have drawn a picture of the Balkans that never existed of a bigoted sociaty full of poeple with murderous intent towards there niehbours, Yugoslavia was a cosmopolitan country the cracks down ethnic lines happend becase its easy to proliferate hate when times are hard this was the case when communisum left a vacum,You havent mentioned the mass Rape

 

plus the murder of children are these acceptable in your admirable war for racial purity

miltia you mean armed gunmen or gangs pretending to follow x y or z because it meets their agenda? exactly what i said!

and how do the "militia" know who's the enemy? tatoos ? no! neighbours with their own agenda pointing them out!

and if the murder of children is exceptable through bombing then you find it exceptable as i dont see you anti iraq (or wherever were playing at the moment).

and you will find the balkans have been at each others throats for centuries ,peace keepers may slow it but it will rise up again when some ethnic group feels hard done bye i can promise

 

Jasenovac...... look it up ,with a little more effort you will find that area is famous for inhuman acts throughout history ,hate never goes away it sits under the surface waiting to get out and little is needed to set it off ,it goes from ethnic hate to good old football matches ,its everywhere and yes its a little over the top including good old footie but count all the deaths related to crowd violence worldwide and i expect even you would be surprised ,hate isnt a reason to kill its an excuse our chap K wouldnt need to even been born for it to rise up if the conditions were right and historicaly the area the conditions are often right!!

remember the hate in the faces of those paedophile protestors ,would they have stood by if they found one ,you can bet he wouldnt have come out alive ,most were just normal everyday folks but were set off by something and the hate boiled over ,most people hate something deep down and if its triggered change to animals and act like them.

saddam was a nutter but when he was chucked out all hell broke loose ,his little exploits pale into insignificance when it comes to killing since we butted our noses in ,iraq is a mean place it needed a mean bastard to control it ,we helped him when it suited us and ignored everything he did ,who's worse saddam or us?.

and if you want to include mass rape just point at those in africa we back to look after the place

you cannot pick on individuals overseas as war criminals when we (as in the west) get up to far worse everyday[

if you want to prosecute those that mass murder include bush blair and brown their crimes are just as valid ,look harder and a third of the world leaders have something they want hidden ,in the case of mr K its just political convenience he's been caught and the "benefits" those in power get from handing him over ,had those nice perks not been available he would have died in obscurity as most do ..... or moved here to join a few others

Edited July 25, 2008 by chesters1

[Sportsman]

FB, up here in Scotland when you are arguing with someone who is so far beyond intelligent reason as to be a completely lost cause we say

"save your breath to cool your porridge"

Might I suggest that this is one of those cases.

Best thing to do is to let it just die away and don't give him an excuse for another diatribe