Syria, a new low

[Phone]

All,

 

CNN Headline news.

 

"The last time a British prime minister was defeated by the Commons on a war motion was 1782 when MPs refused to go on fighting – of all people – the restless Americans wishing for independence." Some British guy said it today.

 

Phone

[Ken L]

Dave H,

 

You (and I) have more "last comments" than a politician.

 

About 10 - 12% of the population in England are Muslims whilst the UK is home to the second largest Jewish population in Europe, and has the fifth largest Jewish community worldwide. (WIKI). I guess the House of Commons don't have access to WIKI.

 

IMO the complicated religious dynamics of the Syrian civil war any military involvement by the U.S. should be very carefully considered given the opportunity for costly disaster.

 

Phone

 

Not sure where you get those figures from Phone but for England and Wales, the 2011 census sowed 4.8% Muslims.

[Phone]

Ken,

 

Maybe it indeed said "under 30 = 10%" (while 65% of christians are REAL OLD). The number came from one of several current articles from UK census reports just released that use the "greater than 10%" number.

 

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/10-of-young-people-in-uk-are-muslims/

 

Just Google "Fri Aug 30 muslims in england" (or similar)

 

Phone

[Dave H]

 

 

Listen here son . You disgust me as not even i used chemical weapons.!!

 

 

 

[Ken L]

Hitler didn't use chemical weopns on the battlefield because he was himself gassed in WW1 and didn't think it sporting.

Get a group of folks in a nice enclosed "shower block" now and that's a different ballgame.

[rob.imk2]

All,

 

Ahh-haa! After Vietnam England has taken a different view on Syria.

 

 

Phone

The original picture this was taken from is why I abhor war ,It still makes me so sad when I see the childrens faces .

[Now there's a right un.]

In any civil war atrocities are laid against the door of the opponent.

I have yet to see definitive proof that the Syrian Government is responsible. To curry favor with the west it could have easily been the rebels who launched the attack.

 

This IMO is just another Libya....

 

I think that once again we have people who wish to destabilize a region for their own gain...wonder who and wonder why?

[Phone]

All,

 

Update, Russian position.

 

"They've also [the Russian's against the USA] sermonized at considerable length that the US is repeating past mistakes by sleepwalking into another war of intervention, without calculating the complexities or spelling out an exit strategy. Summoning historical references to the 1999 Kosov war, to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, Russian officials warn that precipitous Western action in Syria can produce no meaningful victory, and bring only blowback, spreading instability and "catastrophic consequences" for the entire Middle East."

 

US counterpoint

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nearly-1500-killed-in-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack-us-says/2013/08/30/b2864662-1196-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html

 

Phone

 

Ohh, The Russians are calling Obama a "Bush clone".

Edited August 30, 2013 by Phone

[Dave H]

I have sympathy for Obama. He is stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. As the supreme western or world power he can’t sit back and watch such atrocities. Regardless of politics it can’t be left UN punished. I have seen up close napalm and chemical atrocities and i was sick. We all were throwing up everywhere. They can’t be allowed off scot free. If it where your family you would be crying out for help. I actually had a view we should not go in but now i am absolutely positive in my own mind it’s there regardless who did it it’s got to stop.

I think America is doing the humane thing. Think of it being your family...although i know 99% of you can’t...

If it escalates then i am saddened but they must act.

[snakey1]

We should keep our noses out of this as its going to end badly if we do stick them in, we should learn by our mistakes and keep out of other peoples civil wars.