20% Cut In Cod Quota Only 12days A Month

[big_cod]

I have been told today that brussels wants another 20% cut in the cod quota, and the days at sea reduced for boats working a 120ml codend chopped down to 12 from 14.

This can only mean great hardship to those imvolved and the goverment must come forward with some sort of compensation package if these restrictions are implemented .

[Norm B]

I have been told today that brussels wants another 20% cut in the cod quota, and the days at sea reduced for boats working a 120ml codend chopped down to 12 from 14.

This can only mean great hardship to those imvolved and the goverment must come forward with some sort of compensation package if these restrictions are implemented .

While I have every sympathy with the commercial fishermen I fail to see why they must be compensated. Nobody else gets a handout when work is scarce, except for a redundancy package. Most commercials are self employed so wouldn't even be eligable for job seekers allowance, let alone redunancy.

We are told there are plenty of fish in the sea, then we're told catches have to be cut to conserve stocks, who's telling the truth and who's lying?

[JB]

This can only mean great hardship to those imvolved and the goverment must come forward with some sort of compensation package if these restrictions are implemented .

 

You have more confidence in our government than I do, BC. But if you are right, it would be nice to have a drastic reduction in commercial fuel prices, which is their biggest expense and has almost trebled over the last two years. We would all benefit from that.

 

JB

[Fastd]

You have more confidence in our government than I do, BC. But if you are right, it would be nice to have a drastic reduction in commercial fuel prices, which is their biggest expense and has almost trebled over the last two years. We would all benefit from that.

I do believe that red diesel is all but tax free already. The price of fuel is more controlled by the refiners in this case, that means the government would have to make the refiners drop their prices ...fat chance of that.

 

We would all benefit from that.

 

I assume you mean by this all people with boats will benifit?

 

The transport industry has been trying for years to get tax concessions and without any luck. Personally I can not see how the government can justify making the fishing industry a special case. It seems that the trend is more towards letting industries prosper or fail (the coal industry and the car industry to name two) and personally I feel this is far preferable than pilling government money into a non profitable industry.

 

Dave

[wurzel]

Hello Norman B

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We are told there are plenty of fish in the sea, then we're told catches have to be cut to conserve stocks, who's telling the truth and who's lying?

 

I am sure it has nothing to do with conserveing stocks any more.

The EU will not be happy untill the UK's fleet is no more than a cottage industry.

There is plenty of fish in the sea, just not so many of them are cod at the moment.

[Fastd]

Wurzel,

 

Are you suggesting that the EU are only picking on the British fleet. Are they proposing to take 20% of the brits and give it to the others?

 

If this is the case it would certainly be unfair, but even though I dont know the actual facts I feel sure the cuts will be proportional across the board and not just limited to the uk.

 

There is plenty of fish in the sea, just not so many of them are cod at the moment.

 

You keep making this claim but it goes against everything the scientists are saying. Surely the boat that goes out with specialised equipment and personell with the specific intent to quantify the remaining fish stocks is in a better position to put figures on stock levels than you who measures fish stocks by how full the hold is, and will only accept the levels are low when you fail to fill the hold.

 

Dave

[JB]

The transport industry has been trying for years to get tax concessions and without any luck. Personally I can not see how the government can justify making the fishing industry a special case. It seems that the trend is more towards letting industries prosper or fail (the coal industry and the car industry to name two) and personally I feel this is far preferable than pilling government money into a non profitable industry.

 

Dave

 

Once upon a time we had everything. We had a great railway system, which connected every village to every town to every city. We had a coal industry. A steel industry. A shipbuilding industry… and many other industries. We were the best in the world! Systematically, our government let it all go.

 

What do we have now? Oil. (And far too much traffic on the roads. Just think how useful the railway system would be now!)

 

What are we going to do when the oil runs out?

[sam-cox]

Why must the govement come up with some sort of compensation?

I work for myself and if I lose a days work for whatever reason no one compensates me.

Cod are very fast growing so I feel 120ml codends are to small, and I also feel the 35cm size limit is far to small. If the size limit was uped to say a fish of 5lb then it would not take very long before fisherman were catching better cod.

The reduction of quota and days at sea to me is a good thing, but then I do not have to catch fish to feed my family do I?

[Fastd]

Once upon a time we had everything. We had a great railway system, which connected every village to every town to every city. We had a coal industry. A steel industry. A shipbuilding industry… and many other industries. We were the best in the world! Systematically, our government let it all go.

 

This quote could be from one of a dozen communities on the tyne, another dozen on the tees, consett, sheffield, selby and dozens of other places. (ok not shipbuilding in some of them). The local industries have either responded to market economies and been succesful or failed.

 

Succesive goverments of both parties have been letting businesses succeed or fail in their respective markets rather than head towards a communist state. All these areas have now got one thing in common in that they have gone through a depression but new industries have sprung up to fill the void. For many years the government piled money into steel and shipbuilding industries and then said no more. We still have both these industries its just they are leaner and far more efficient than in the old days.

 

Perhaps this is the way commercial fishing will go ...only time will tell.

 

Dave

 

PS. Whats the sea like at whitby, any chance of going out tomorrow in a 16 footer?

[sam-cox]

Hopefully this is the way that the commercial fishing inderstry is going, and all we will have left is a few good fisherman fishing substainably.