Mental illness

[corydoras]

Well, I might if I could hear it. Thanks for trying, but the sound through my hearing aid from internet sound bites is indistinguishable from that of a flock of wigeon Anas penelope - quacking heads ! Can guess the gist though.

 

Phone I understand where you are coming from, and given how widespread religion is, cannot really be bothered to argue.

 

However, unless mankind undergoes a gestalt switch soon, and recognises religion for the mental aberration that it is, we are on course for an eventual scenario where one set of religious fanatics with nuclear capability are arguing with a different set of religious fanatics, also with nuclear capability - what price "deterrents" then ?

 

I'm not afraid of gods, any more than I'm afraid of the tooth fairy. What I do fear is the capability of those suffering from a god delusion to cause me and mine harm.

Precisely. God has never done me any harm, he has not even uttered one mean word to me. On the other hand their are human beings who claim to have a "relationship" with this supreme creator of the universe and who claim to know his mind scare the cr#p out of me sometimes.

[Phone]

Hummm?,

 

While negative, I believe you've both made a statement of "faith".

 

Phone

[ayjay]

A good illustration of the difficulty of understanding the condition.

 

I would have to agree, I don't understand it, but then I'm completely sane. (No I don't have the certificate to prove it).

 

........but the taboo subject is at least being talked about now. (Well done Clifftop).

 

......and I think when I was younger, a large proportion of today's mental conditions would have been treated to the same advice.

[corydoras]

Hummm?,

 

While negative, I believe you've both made a statement of "faith".

 

Phone

If I'm one of them then show me where because I want to stomp on that 'til it's dead.

[chesters1]

A good illustration of the difficulty of understanding the condition. I remember my schoolmaster, in attempting to enlighten us, defining mental illness as someone imagining himself as "anything from Jesus Christ to a piece of cheese".

 

Inadvertently, he may have given me an insight into one form of mental illness - ie what Richard Dawkins calls "the god delusion"

 

Having had both parents fall victim to this disease, I was in a unique position to note the progressive nature of the disease and the fact that it is contagious (not liike measles or ebola contagion, but through a process not even vaguely understood - words like "brainwashing" or more recently "radicalisation" hint at the nature of delusional spread) In case you think my view was itself biased, eventually the medical profession had no option but to section my mother as her religious ravings were becoming a huge problem to the local community. My father died before reaching that state, having caught the disease a few years later than my mother. I had an unexplained immunity, which is why I am able to report rationally on what occurred.

 

When visited by itinerant hedge-priests, I do my best to urge them to seek psychiatric treatment - usually, I fear, without result.

 

Anyone who confesses to believing in fairies, elves, goblins, gnomes, gremlins, and the like is immediately suspect as to "compos mentis"

 

Why then is not a "god delusion" an immediate cause for concern ? There is a spectrum of effects, ranging from a relatively harmless vague belief in an "invisible friend", through hearing "voices" instructing the victim to "preach the gospel" (and thus spread the disease) to what we euphemistically call "extremism", in which the voices might tell the recipient to invest in a sharp sword and behead the "forces of evil" - such "forces of evil" might be interpreted to include you, who are reading this, so the condition is not without risk to you personally. Suicide bombers and their like have had their counterparts before today's problems - anyone remember the kamikaze pilots ?

 

 

 

Possibly, in a few hundred year's time, should the human race survive that long, the faintest belief in anything supernatural will result in the patient receiving early psychiatric treatment Good luck with that

Malcolm my near neighbour writes books about fairies and ley lines and other such things ,more strangely i suppose people read them?

I guess the university of talking out of your arse has low standards when it comes to diplomas ,the tv rolls "experts" out with alarming rapidity on most things

Using the terms "its believed" , "we think" "in my opinion" , "may" ,"could" "its possible" , "its likely" is easily substituted for fact but considered as fact

Edited February 26, 2016 by chesters1

[Phone]

All,

 

This is headed down a well trodden path. I'm with Vagabond although we differ in opinion we pretty much agree it's been cussed and discussed into a deep hole.

 

Re: the topic, I too am glad the subject is coming out of the closet. It's better to be "sick" than "crazier than a bed bug".

 

Phone

[Phone]

All,

 

The weather was such a beautiful start this morning I decided to skip my meds and stir up chit just for a change of pace.

 

Phone

[Ken L]

Well, I might if I could hear it. Thanks for trying, but the sound through my hearing aid from internet sound bites is indistinguishable from that of a flock of wigeon Anas penelope - quacking heads !

 

If you click on the video title at the top of the pane, it will open the YouTube video in a new window.

Closed captions can then be selected by clicking the appropriate icon on he bottom right of the video pane.

[chesters1]

All,

 

This is headed down a well trodden path. I'm with Vagabond although we differ in opinion we pretty much agree it's been cussed and discussed into a deep hole.

 

Re: the topic, I too am glad the subject is coming out of the closet. It's better to be "sick" than "crazier than a bed bug".

 

Phone

How deep is that hole?

[Andy_1984]

taboo for sure, theres things ive experienced past few years I still dont want to talk about to anyone. PTSD was what the doc says, take these pills he said, couple of months later no thanks I said, dreams.... reality.... both the same I thought. maybe they still are I wonder. help me they can ? can they ****. ill take it day by day but maybe not tomorrow.