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[barry luxton]

Ken L, on 24 Oct 2017 - 19:58, said:

Whereas his opponent has an unblemished track record...

 

 

Ohhhhhhhhh

[Steve Walker]

This was a little more specific that the usual Trump banter. He's such a jerk.

Phone, how does the election of Trump make you feel about your countrymen? Can you understand why it happened?

 

Someone was saying to me over the weekend that he found it ridiculous that out of a population of over 300 million people Trump and Clinton were the best candidates the system could come up with.

[Sportsman]

Ken

I don't remember saying that Clinton was any better.

That, however, doesn't make Trump any less of a liar.

I blame the Democrats for the election of Trump, they should have fielded a better candidate, none of which changes the indisputable fact that Trump is not fit for office.

The only problem is that if you get rid of Trump you are left with Pence. In an ideal world Pence would be in the adjoining cell to Trump and it wouldn't bother me if Clinton was in the cell opposite.

Edited October 25, 2017 by Sportsman

[Steve Walker]

Pence is far more dangerous than Trump, IMO.

[Sportsman]

I think that you are probably right.

At least with Trump no-one believes what he says or takes any real notice of him. With Pence, things might actually happen.

[Huge_Vitae]

Phone, how does the election of Trump make you feel about your countrymen? Can you understand why it happened?Someone was saying to me over the weekend that he found it ridiculous that out of a population of over 300 million people Trump and Clinton were the best candidates the system could come up with.

Just had a brilliant idea, we can send over May, Corbyn, Cable and Surgeon for the next elections as candidates, just to show how generous we are as a nation we will ask for nothing in return, America gets a breathing space to move away from the dominance of Oil, The NRA and Banks and from the same old 'families', of candidates.

 

Some of you are asking, "What's in it for us?" Not sure, can't quite put my finger on it, but I am sure there is something.

[Steve Walker]

As long as they don't send us Trump, Clinton or Sanders in return.

[chesters1]

Just had a brilliant idea, we can send over May, Corbyn, Cable and Surgeon for the next elections as candidates, just to show how generous we are as a nation we will ask for nothing in return, America gets a breathing space to move away from the dominance of Oil, The NRA and Banks and from the same old 'families', of candidates.

 

Some of you are asking, "What's in it for us?" Not sure, can't quite put my finger on it, but I am sure there is something.

Can we send mandleson as well ,his 'lordship' should fit in very well ,as an ex con perhaps extremely well? As an englishman he will either be reveared or the bad guy as english accents tend to be in movies ,it comes with a caveat though once out he stays out!

His links with russia should give clinton more to whine about lol

[Ken L]

Ken

I don't remember saying that Clinton was any better.

That, however, doesn't make Trump any less of a liar.

Nope but you have been presenting a rather one sided argument.

As I said back during the US election, it's a sad indictment of the US political system that out of 326.000,000 people in the country, they managed to whittle down the possible leadership candidates to two - neither of whom was fit for office.

My position at the time was that Trump was the lesser of two evils and I knew he was going to win when I heard none other than arch lefty Michael Moore give a speech suggesting that a vote for Trump would be the biggest "F*** you" in human history.

 

FWIW, his supporters generally agree that he's not doing great on forign policy but they love him domestically.

[Phone]

All, Steve,

 

100% my opinion. I believe we are living in a time of major change in communicating, especially social communicating. If you were to compare U.S. Presidents public approval ratings that include all factors their ratings are surprising.

From John Kennedy back all but a very few have approval ratings less than (ohh – 3 stars). Even Hoover in the Great Depression had a 50% approval With the exception of Regan no president including Trump has garnered anything close to 50% approval.

Trump’s biggest weakness is he hasn't REMOTELY demonstrated the set of skills needed to handle the powers and constraints of the presidency. So, Trump is aggrieved, petty, and immature. That’s not news in American politics, really. Many politicians have these traits (Chesters1, would say all politicians). Successful ones subordinate them to practical concerns, or hire people who temper them, in order to work within the system. Not Trump. There is apparently no limit to how much he indulges these impulses, up to and including encouraging violence and that is, at best frightening. As an example, here is a New York Times web site https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html they hate the guy. He seems to have no remorse because he believes he’s never wrong.

The reason it happened? There seems to be a nationalistic movement and not just in the U.S. but worldwide. Couple that with the fact Clinton was simply the better of two horrible choices – gasp! He won, ironically by a minority of the popular vote. IMO – Ruskies 50/50.

If you think Trump or Clinton are bad – you ain’t seen nothing yet until we get Pence. Pence is the only reason I hope Trump makes it 4 years without killing us all. Pence is sinister slime. Trump is just crazy as a loon.

 

Phone

I can assure you 100%, social media and the unregulated internet has/will change "the way" we select our leadership for the future. Glad I'm old.

Ken, I believe in this instance you're relying on the very thing that makes decision making difficult. In the past, to some degree print media had some degree of moral conscience. Today, with the internet you have to fact check the fact checkers, then discover their funding, then their political leaning - then - then. All this must be done by products of public education that can't read. But they "MEME"