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Well a whopping 57 million has been raised and on the back of African babies and mothers dying from a very preventable death . How you lot can possibly deny them spiced with ''charity begins at home'' blah blah blah ''stanley knives'' blah blah blah, and even a self confessed Christian joining in regarding funds to Africa...his country of residence for decades too.

Well just look at the totals, a record even in these hard times, I say thank goodness the majority of folk are not mean in pocket and mind as some of you and the majority of the public do care.

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I don't think that people don't care Rabbit. I just think that throwing money at the people solves nothing. If comic relief was aiming to address the scourges of malaria, leprosy, cholera, AIDS and tuberculosis directly in much the same way as Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is, I might be more inclined to put my hand in my pocket but providing truckloads of mosquito nets and food aid is like putting a sticking plaster on a gushing artery.

 

Of course there are other effects of aid. If someone in Africa constantly sees free food and gifts comming from the UK, who can blame them for wanting to up sticks and migrate north to the source of all that bounty ?

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I don't think that people don't care Rabbit. I just think that throwing money at the people solves nothing. If comic relief was aiming to address the scourges of malaria, leprosy, cholera, AIDS and tuberculosis directly in much the same way as Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is, I might be more inclined to put my hand in my pocket but providing truckloads of mosquito nets and food aid is like putting a sticking plaster on a gushing artery.

 

Of course there are other effects of aid. If someone in Africa constantly sees free food and gifts comming from the UK, who can blame them for wanting to up sticks and migrate north to the source of all that bounty ?

 

Sorry Ken it's just not enough to say the money does not have an effect it does. I appreciate that there has to be a political will from the countries leaders to effect change, and most of the time this is lacking, so what do we do in the West..nothing.. ? No we do try and help on the only way the man in the street can, and if it can help then fine. I have a acquaintance whose daughter has worked in Malawi in a humanitarian role and that operation is funded by such as Comic Relief, and their presence DOES save lives, so I will continue to give, it may not be perfect, but it's a darn site better than doing nothing.

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Sorry Ken it's just not enough to say the money does not have an effect it does. I appreciate that there has to be a political will from the countries leaders to effect change, and most of the time this is lacking, so what do we do in the West..nothing.. ? No we do try and help on the only way the man in the street can, and if it can help then fine. I have a acquaintance whose daughter has worked in Malawi in a humanitarian role and that operation is funded by such as Comic Relief, and their presence DOES save lives, so I will continue to give, it may not be perfect, but it's a darn site better than doing nothing.

 

 

You are so wrong, for years now charities have been going out and digging wells and drilling for fresh water supplies, I will challenge you to go out and find one still functioning over five years old. Old adage easy come easy go. And if these countries are so hard up how is it they get the funds for all the arms which flood Africa and cause 90% of their problems. Ken is 100% correct money will solve nothing it will just elongate the situation.

 

I dig deep every year for worth while local charities which I know will use the funds wisely, the RNLI being one of them.

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I've often wondered about moving some place where £50 would feed us for a month. I think my retirement income would keep us living in pretty good style if things were that cheap.

£50 could feed anyone for a month but the choice would be limited ;)

 

its strange we keep doing all these good deeds abroad ,they ((their predecessors) were in the fast lane when we were in mud huts ,pumping water hundreds of miles irrigating thousands of acres and on the whole having a great time ,why was it all forgotten ? deliberately? ,i still say theres a starving company who's employees go from country to country looking hungry ,silicone implants in the kids guts and trained mouth preferring flies.

wests doogooders (who probably have some involvement) shout the crisis words "we" stump up , the charities fill their coffers ,pay off starving company ,a few thousand to the ruler and put up a few cheap huts to look good ,next month the whole lot move into another country and repeat it.

 

there was a charity display in an unused shop in farnham showing the tents they send over ,they wouldnt last 6 months! polyester breaks down in the sun ,canvas is far superior ,it just looks good to the passer-bye but more than useless in the field ,why not just use mud brick its been used over there since man crawled out of their caves :rolleyes:

half of their problems are deliberate if they and their animals didnt **** in the water they might live a bit longer

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Thats why mine stops in my pocket, sod em

 

A whole lorry load of rubbers or a load of stanley knife blades and fix them for good

But the Catholic Church sends out missionaries who preach to them that contraception is evil.

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But the Catholic Church sends out missionaries who preach to them that contraception is evil.

 

and worse, they pedal the notion that condoms are ineffective against STIs, including HIV.

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You are so wrong, for years now charities have been going out and digging wells and drilling for fresh water supplies, I will challenge you to go out and find one still functioning over five years old. Old adage easy come easy go. And if these countries are so hard up how is it they get the funds for all the arms which flood Africa and cause 90% of their problems. Ken is 100% correct money will solve nothing it will just elongate the situation.

 

I dig deep every year for worth while local charities which I know will use the funds wisely, the RNLI being one of them.

 

You are in denial, the money does have an impact and does save lives. Of course it is not the most efficient way of dealing with the problem, but education and the will on behalf of governments does take time, and time is not what these kids have got.

I am so wrong!! What a conceited comment, and you smugly go on to tell us that your charity giving is locally based, sorry you are soooo wrong True Charity does not confine itself to local needs...never has done never will.

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and worse, they pedal the notion that condoms are ineffective against STIs, including HIV.
True, but then it doesn't help when their leaders are HIV denialists either.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/2...ds-south-africa

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Is there ever any feed back regarding the monies that are raised and sent year on year on year. Has it actually done any good, has it achieved anything, have the people who are in reciept of this money managed to get themselves out of the doldrums because of this money. Can someone confirm that it is not spent on arms. If as it is said it costs so little to feed so many, there must be some signs of improvement surly. As to the 50 mil pledged this year, what will it actually be spent on.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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