police brutality

[barry luxton]

I looked at the video within this item with utter astonishment with regards to the way in which this guy was treated, first of all one so called policeman hits him with a batten from behind, then pushed most forcibly to the ground again from behind by another so called law and order officer, what looks to be for no appearent reason. Tradically the guy dies minutes later. I can't prejudge what is going to happen to the 'policemen' involved but the new police commisioner had better deal with this with the uttermost transparency. Shameful to watch. First of all the police denied that the poor guy was even touched until someone had the foresight to provide the evidence.

 

http://news.aol.co.uk/met-chiefs-concern-a...408050609990002

[Steve Walker]

That video has changed my mind on the case - I don't have any sympathy for the troublemakers out for a ruck with the police (and a bit of vandalism en route), but there was no excuse for that. I think the police officer involved ought to think on this principle of law.

[kleinboet]

Just a quickie - Why was the "policeman's'" face and identification covered??

[Ken L]

Not a protester - just a newsagent trying to go home and already turned away from several exits by the police.

 

Not being confrontational - he was walking away with his hands in his pockets.

 

He was hit with a baton and shoved to the ground. Although he did get back to his feet, he colapsed and died moments latter.

 

Assuming that a causal link can be established between the shove/baton strike, it looks like a clear cut case of manslaughter.

 

As to why the number/ID (and to a lesser extent the face) are hidden, the police learned the hard way during the miners strike that if 15 blokes can be directed to a single copper

(lets say "number 49"), there is very little that his mates can do to prevent him from being dragged out of line and beaten to a pulp.

[Guest Brumagem Phil]

That video has changed my mind on the case - I don't have any sympathy for the troublemakers out for a ruck with the police (and a bit of vandalism en route), but there was no excuse for that. I think the police officer involved ought to think on this principle of law.

 

That rule only applies to us steve, not 'them'.

 

As an aside, does anyone know what that dangerous driving officer from wales got in the end as punishment? Its all gone quiet.

[Steve Walker]

The one who crashed at 120mph? Sent down for five months. There's another one just been found guilty of death by dangerous driving, not yet sentenced but warned to expect prison - the ANPR pinged a suspicious car going the other way, so he turned round and did 90 in a 30 trying to catch up. No lights or sirens, to avoid alerting the suspect. Teenage girl stepped in front of him, killed instantly. Turned out that the car that had triggered the ANPR was legit after all.

[Guest Brumagem Phil]

The one who crashed at 120mph? Sent down for five months. There's another one just been found guilty of death by dangerous driving, not yet sentenced but warned to expect prison - the ANPR pinged a suspicious car going the other way, so he turned round and did 90 in a 30 trying to catch up. No lights or sirens, to avoid alerting the suspect. Teenage girl stepped in front of him, killed instantly. Turned out that the car that had triggered the ANPR was legit after all.

 

 

They do that around here all the time. I almost had a head on some weeks ago with a panda car with no blues and twos who 'apexed' a blind bend as I was going the other way........if it wasnt for the fact I had to be somewhere, I'd have turned around, followed him and noted his number and time to make a complaint.

 

That welsh copper got hit very hard didn't he? 5 months, 2 years ban and a resit of his test is more than most would get............for once the one rule for them and one for us didnt apply. I think he has a case to argue his punishment was severe, but he is still arguing about the actual conviction. Quite bizarre!

[Steve Walker]

Considering that the one who was caught doing 159 on the motorway and 91 in a 30 eventually got an absolute discharge, yes, surprisingly harsh. I suppose he'll actually serve 6 weeks or so - not sure I'd want to be a disgraced traffic cop in the nick, mind!

[Cranfield]

I have no comment on the alleged brutality, but what irritates me is that the media has been awash with the dead man family (especially his son) making all the demands for the truth, the "pieces to the jigsaw" and stating what a well loved man their father/husband was.

 

The man is described as, "a homeless alcoholic who occasionally watched a newspaper stand" (not exactly a newsagent).

Where were his family when he obviously needed their help ?

 

I think they have been blinded by the £££££££ signs of some nice comp courtesy of the Met.

[chesters1]

Considering that the one who was caught doing 159 on the motorway and 91 in a 30 eventually got an absolute discharge, yes, surprisingly harsh. I suppose he'll actually serve 6 weeks or so - not sure I'd want to be a disgraced traffic cop in the nick, mind!

he'l get a section 43? and have a nice cell to himself out of harms way if he plays his cards right if not a cushy open prison where all he has to do is turn up to sign in once a day to do his "bird"