European rules threaten to "smother sea angling"

[barry luxton]

You need to pay attention to your personal hygiene. Your hands need a wash and your finger nails are black.

 

Earning honest money mate, get stuffed. Please understand i will not make another personal comment in return as i do not consider it appropriate for the internet, however if you wish to continue, help your self, set up a post just for your own gratification as i have said previous, please do. Call it the personal glennk slag off post if you like.

[Elton]

Guys, from the exchanges I've just seen, that looks about even-Stevens. Can you please now both refrain from any personal attacks? By the looks of it, you've both got a common interest, so it would be a shame to see a discussion fall to pieces because the passion ran a bit too high.

 

tia,

 

Elton

[glennk]

Even stevens is fine by me although I wasn't really trying to score any points. Just pointing out with a bit of humour (taken the wrong way) that Mr Luxtons viewpoint has changed from what it once was. He is now starting to realise (Just like myself, and even your good self) that we are part of some great big management scheme with more focus on creating bureaucracy and jobs than fish stock conservation. Also it came as a shock to see him question the sea angling reps at the Angling Trust. Had I of done that he would have been down on me like a ton of bricks regardless of whether he actually agreed or not.

 

I agree wholeheartedly that we have the same interests at heart and for the better good of this topic I wont ever mention his black hard working fingernails ever again.

[Steve Coppolo]

Just wanted to say that, with regard to consultations and anglers having their say, first of all anglers have to agree on what it is they want. You would think that the majority of anglers would see these MCZ and MPA proposals as the threat that they are, but there are still a few who see them as opportunities. The ones to worry about, rather than those who just haven't seen what's been happening over the last few years, are those who have argued and campaigned for various restrictions and bans for years - and can't let it go. They see this as the culmination of all their hard work and will do whatever they can to 'out say' the average angler who just wants to be left alone to go fishing - unrestricted. Unsurprisingly, it ios these people who do minimal fishing, or only fish abroad nowdays, so will be affected the least by the imposition of their own misguided ideals.

 

It is going to be hard enough sea anglers fighting the powers that be to retain their right to fish unrestricted, but we have traitors within our own camp who will have to be dealt with too. Which is going to make things harder than they should be.

 

What are the angling trust doing to help us in our fight? From what I'm hearing, bugger all, as expected. Still, looking at some of the press releases they've issued lately, we could get lucky and see them react with 'dismay' to any restrictions that may e forced upon us. I'm quickly losing patience with the Angling Trust. So many promises, so little delivered.

Edited November 28, 2009 by Steve Coppolo

[Guest challenge]

I can understand the frustrations of the majority of RSA on the points stated i.e. would like to be just left alone to do what they have always done in regards to there hobby.

That’s all well and good, but would these same anglers (who want to be left alone to do what they do) be prepared to just do that and let the powers that be and the commercial fishermen do what they have done for years?

Regards.

[Steve Coppolo]

I can understand the frustrations of the majority of RSA on the points stated i.e. would like to be just left alone to do what they have always done in regards to there hobby.

That’s all well and good, but would these same anglers (who want to be left alone to do what they do) be prepared to just do that and let the powers that be and the commercial fishermen do what they have done for years?

Regards.

 

 

I think that anyone who has learnt anything at all by the last few years developments would, Challenge. Along with the silent masses who never knew of, or wanted, any change in the first place.

[Guest challenge]

I think that anyone who has learnt anything at all by the last few years developments would, Challenge. Along with the silent masses who never knew of, or wanted, any change in the first place.

I believe Steve, that you have given a very genuine reply.

Regards.

[big_cod]

That’s all well and good, but would these same anglers (who want to be left alone to do what they do) be prepared to just do that and let the powers that be and the commercial fishermen do what they have done for years?

Regards.

 

What pillage the sea the damage done over the last 30 years will take decades to repair not only cod but whiting ,haddock and just about every species which swims in the north sea has been litterally brought to its knees.

 

paul.

Edited November 28, 2009 by big_cod

[Guest challenge]

So I take it that you wouldn’t be prepared to let the powers that be and commercial fishermen get on with things then Paul if the powers that be left recreational anglers alone?

Regards.

[Sharkbyte]

We pay the 'powers that be' their wages.

 

I am surprised that you have overlooked that minor point, Challenge.

 

 

PS. Barry Luxton and Glenn, you need your heads banging together. You've both got some bloody good points to make. Instead of tearing strips off of each other, email the AT and tell them what you expect.

Edited November 28, 2009 by Sharkbyte