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I certainly don't, and couldn't find enlightenment via google! Please do tell!!!

 

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Maybe you pee on the bread to get it to stay on the hook :P

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Just to deliberately go off at a tangent....

Under rated - a simple Mepps spinner.

Over rated - jerkbaits.

 

Other than that:

Under rated - Luncheon meat, especially when cut up small.

Over rated - Boilies - particularly on rivers. Actually, I think the problem is that they were developed to overcome speciffic problems but have become the only bait that a lot of Mcanglers know how to use.

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Bread is definitely under-rated - one of my favourite baits. I think people try bread and give up on it when their mashed bread ends up like sloppy dough and their hookbait keeps falling off. It's a very simple bait, but very easy to use badly. Get it right and it's fantastic.

 

Simple brown crumb groundbait is also under-rated, especially when mixed with a little liquid flavouring to liven it up. Really cheap and effective. In fact, for big fish anglers (especially carpers), groundbait in general is totally under-rated, hardly ever used but fantastically effective.

 

I'd agree that most boilies are over-rated, and expensive with it. There's an enormous marketing machine behind it all, but plenty of the fish in the mags claimed to be caught on xxxx boilie were in fact caught using something else entirely, often not even a boilie at all.

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groundbait in general is totally under-rated, hardly ever used but fantastically effective.

I totally agree. Groundbait as has been mentioned though takes preperation and can be hard to get the right consistency unless you know a bit about what you are doing. That is probably why the instant carpers dont use it much. I think a more experience carper would certainly at least try it.

 

I'd agree that most boilies are over-rated, and expensive with it. There's an enormous marketing machine behind it all, but plenty of the fish in the mags claimed to be caught on xxxx boilie were in fact caught using something else entirely, often not even a boilie at all.

 

I agree with the word (most) however on my river for barbel a certain flavour is very effective and I have been using it for a while now and I am not a McAngler as ken put it ^_^ . I tried many baits before settling on that one. I do however think that some flavours are more aimed at the person sniffing them than the fish eating them such as peach and maplecream for example.

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I certainly don't, and couldn't find enlightenment via google! Please do tell!!!

 

Mat

 

 

Golden flake

 

Back in the days before sliced bread, many white-bread tin loaves had a hard, shiny, golden, brittle and crackly crust on the top.

 

To make golden flake, you acquired a fresh loaf, then all you had to do was carefully peel off the brittle bits of crust (and add to groundbait mixture rather than waste them) and you would encounter a layer of spongy but tough golden-coloured bread about a quarter-inch thick. Carefully cut this away from the underlying white crumb, using a sharp knife. Little quarter-inch cubes of this are deadly for roach, and other species. It stays on the hook well.

 

If you would like to try it, you will have to find an old-fashioned (real) baker first - its not a supermarket product.

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Bread is definitely under-rated - one of my favourite baits. I think people try bread and give up on it when their mashed bread ends up like sloppy dough and their hookbait keeps falling off. It's a very simple bait, but very easy to use badly. Get it right and it's fantastic.

 

Simple brown crumb groundbait is also under-rated, especially when mixed with a little liquid flavouring to liven it up. Really cheap and effective. In fact, for big fish anglers (especially carpers), groundbait in general is totally under-rated, hardly ever used but fantastically effective.

 

I'd agree that most boilies are over-rated, and expensive with it. There's an enormous marketing machine behind it all, but plenty of the fish in the mags claimed to be caught on xxxx boilie were in fact caught using something else entirely, often not even a boilie at all.

 

I'd echo all this.

 

Believe it or not, most of my members on my Carp Lake at Wingham use boilies. This is despite there being no nuisance species (or even small carp) that boilies were invented to avoid! If members want to use boilie ingredients then why not use a paste made from them? Quite apart from anything else this would mean a higher leakage rate, plus lower cost. Alternatively particles would be a good bet. Indeed, Wingham is exactly the kind of water that Rod Hutchinson invented the particle approach for.

 

Another under-rated bait is whitebait, especially for carp on many waters. Most species, with the notable exception of perch, will take whitebait. Whitebait are the fry of sprats and herrings, and are especially effective on heavily pressured waters where the fish have seen almost everything. See this article of mine here on Angler's Net: http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Coarse-Fishing...s_for_chub.html.

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A bit of animal fur, a length of turkey breast under feather and a jewellery makers brass bead perform wonders for me :D

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