Spinning for trout thread

[Ken L]

So with no EA blocks, it's down to club rules. Read them carefully. If there is no explicit ban, go right ahead.

If there are no written rules, I certainly wouldn't ask "Can I spin for trout in the closed season ?" because you're going to run into the same old wall of ignorance and assumptions - especially from coarse only anglers.

If you're forced to ask, I'd stick with "Can I fish for trout in the closed season ?" and leave it for them to cut in with any fly only type restrictions.

[lutra]

So with no EA blocks, it's down to club rules. Read them carefully. If there is no explicit ban, go right ahead.

If there are no written rules, I certainly wouldn't ask "Can I spin for trout in the closed season ?" because you're going to run into the same old wall of ignorance and assumptions - especially from coarse only anglers.

If you're forced to ask, I'd stick with "Can I fish for trout in the closed season ?" and leave it for them to cut in with any fly only type restrictions.

I agree with you Ken apart from the word "ignorance". I think it would take quite a bit of ignorance for an angler to try and claim he was only spinning for Brown trout if he was spinning on the lower Ribble. IOM a size 2 silver Mepps is as good a lure of salmon and sea trout as it is for Brownies and right now there is probably more salmon and sea trout in the lower ribble than there are Brownies.........

[AddictedToScopex]

As far as i can tell from reading the EA rules, your well within your rights to spin for brown trout on the ribble when the trout season is open, even when the coarse season isn't open. The only extra game fishing restriction i can see in the closed coarse season that i can see is "Early season method restriction for salmon with rod and line: any angler fishing for salmon may only use artificial fly or artificial lure before 16th June in any calendar year".

 

So not only can you spin for Brownies, you can also worm for them as well, so long as your club hasn't stopped it.

 

ps. If it ain't got red spots put it back.

 

Thanks for that Brian. I knew I had been told it was perfectly ok years ago. Might have even been by my father. Guess I have the green light unless club rules state otherwise.

[AddictedToScopex]

As promised here is the feedback from the EA with regard to spinning for brown trout outside of the coarse season on the Ribble:

 

Dear Richard,

 

Thank you for your enquiry regarding fishing for Brown Trout with spinners on the River Ribble during the coarse closed season.

 

I have spoken to Brian Shields who is one of our Fisheries specialists who has check the North West Regional Byelaws.

 

He has confirmed that there is nothing to stop you fishing with spinners, providing you have checked with the person or Club who owns the Fishing Rights that this is okay with them.

Some owners may say you are only allowed to Fly-fish in which case fishing in the Close session would not be allowed.

 

Should you have any further queries Richard, we will be happy to help.

 

Kind regards,

Belinda Peacegood

Part of National Operations Group

Customer Contact Centre

Rotherham

03708 506506

Edited May 2, 2012 by AddictedToScopex

[jonnybluetooth]

All very interesting reading.

I know the thread started about spinning for trout on rivers.

I am totally new to spinning ( reason being my 11 year old son has asked me to take him out fishing and spinning is what he wants to start doing. I live in a town in N.Irealnd which has 6 reserviours within 5 mins driven of my house. So all our fishing ( for now ) will be done there.

Can anyone please give me as much info as possible on line to use, best type and weight of spinners and type of retrieve ect to give him the best chance of catching trout ( mainly stocked rainbow but also browns )

Thanks

[AddictedToScopex]

All very interesting reading.

I know the thread started about spinning for trout on rivers.

I am totally new to spinning ( reason being my 11 year old son has asked me to take him out fishing and spinning is what he wants to start doing. I live in a town in N.Irealnd which has 6 reserviours within 5 mins driven of my house. So all our fishing ( for now ) will be done there.

Can anyone please give me as much info as possible on line to use, best type and weight of spinners and type of retrieve ect to give him the best chance of catching trout ( mainly stocked rainbow but also browns )

Thanks

Hi Jonny, Weclome to AN

 

Small Mepps are usually a winner for smaller fish such as trout and perch etc. Weight really depends on how far you want to cast but this can also be dictated by having a rod that matches the weight of the spinner. For example a heavy rod will not cast a light spinner very far at all. Retrieve wise I would start with a steady retrieve and see what happens and play it by ear. The fish may respond to a different retrieve on any given day. If you need more detailed info it may be worth starting a thead.

Edited May 2, 2012 by AddictedToScopex

[Emma two]

This thread is packed with misinformation, hopefully not many new to fishing have read it. Perhaps it illustrates the confusion that exists in here specifically that we don't have a game fishing section. We have comments on game fishing written from a coarse fishing perspective. Ther has been talk about 'fishing in the close season'...well it is nothing of the sort for game fish, it is very much the open season.

 

RIVER DERWENT (Cumbria) SEASON

 

Salmon-1st Feb-31st Oct

 

Sea trout-1st April-30 Sept

 

Trout-15th Mar-30th Sept

 

One is allowed to spin and bait fish for these species in those seasons, the only restrictions are local ones determined by the water hight, not the calender, of course one can fly fish if desired, but it cannot be overstated that game fishing and 'fly fishing' are not interchangable terms.

 

The river keeper of a good salmon beat just downstream of town called for a coffee yesterday, I told him about this thread and its attendent confusion, he has just returned from an EA course at Warringon, and this morning he dropped around some paperwork to confirm and clear up any confusion. A lot of salmon come out of the bit of river he looks after, some anglers want to use fly, but most of the fish come to spinning (flying 'Cs' are favourite). It is a big money business, rods are booked often 12 months in advance and there is no way that angers are going to struggle on with the fly if the water isn't right for it.

 

Have a look at this link...(it's not the beat of the fellow above)

 

http://www.cumbria-fishing.co.uk/

Edited May 2, 2012 by Emma two

[Emma two]

All very interesting reading.

I know the thread started about spinning for trout on rivers.

I am totally new to spinning ( reason being my 11 year old son has asked me to take him out fishing and spinning is what he wants to start doing. I live in a town in N.Irealnd which has 6 reserviours within 5 mins driven of my house. So all our fishing ( for now ) will be done there.

Can anyone please give me as much info as possible on line to use, best type and weight of spinners and type of retrieve ect to give him the best chance of catching trout ( mainly stocked rainbow but also browns )

Thanks

 

 

Hiya, don't forget to search out the different depths of the water. You do this by counting down so your lure come in at different heights, this can be especially important with trout. Sometimes they will up up high in the water so you can cast to any movement you see on the surface and start your retrieve as soon as the lure hits the water. they may be down deep hugging the bed so its worth waiting counting down until the line goes slack as it arrives on the bottom, or they may be in any depth in between, once you start getting hits then you know that you may have found them. I learned the value of this one bitter december day, an angler nearby was catching, I wasn't, he advised me to allow my lure to sink before retrieving and after hours of nothing I was getting a fish (rainbow trout) every other cast.

 

Watch out for fry scattering and jumping out of the water, often in the margains, this is the trout chasing them, so cast into those areas, it can be explosive and productive.

 

'tight lines' to you and your boy.

Edited May 2, 2012 by Emma two

[Phone]

Addicted,

 

From your quote by the EA: """"Some owners may say you are only allowed to Fly-fish in which case fishing in the Close session would not be allowed.""""

 

What? I guess it would not be "allowed" by some private, non-government entity? It would not be allowed but it wouldn't be illegal either? Is that what they are saying? Why doesn't the EA stick with addressing the "LAW" and let landowners and their agents or representatives speak for themselves? If you own the property you can ask somone or anyone to leave for a myriad of unrelated reasons. You must leave but you haven't broken any law save maybe trespassing. (??)

 

Phone

Dam!! even my post is confusing. Is there a difference in the UK between "not allowed" (by a private person(s) -- and -- "breaking the law" of the government??

Edited May 2, 2012 by Phone

[Ken L]

Dam!! even my post is confusing. Is there a difference in the UK between "not allowed" (by a private person(s) -- and -- "breaking the law" of the government??

 

Yes.

 

If you go into a pool hall, take your shoes off so you can't commit "criminal damage" and dance on the tables, you're not breaking the law but you surely will be breaking the rules (even if they make them up on the spot) of the establishment and can expect the owners to kick your arse out - Same with fishing.

 

Can anyone please give me as much info as possible on line to use, best type and weight of spinners and type of retrieve etc to give him the best chance of catching trout ( mainly stocked rainbow but also browns )

Shore fishing on larger stillwaters is a little different to rivers because you have to add depth and distance into the equation. Casting long distances will allow you to cover much more water and the fish can be at any depth so you will need to cover the water column.

Some heavier spinners like Dropens and some small but heavy spoons will be handy additions to your arsenal. Not something I've done much of though.

Edited May 2, 2012 by Ken L