Advice on Multiplier Reel

[gozzer]

It's the EA policy, not Birmingham AA policy that counts. A couple of years ago a young lad caught a 40lber from a tributary of the Thames, and returned it. The EA didn't prosecute him purely because of his age. I assume it was an adult this time, the EA should therefore prosecute him based on the other case. If the BAA encourage anglers to return alien species to a river, then they should be held to account, and prosecuted too.

Any stocking of catfish requires a licence, and one of the stipulations is that the stillwater is not connected to the river system.

 

John.

[Anderoo]

I do hope it wasn't returned to the river alive.

 

John.

 

Why?

[Disturbed]

Order some 0.9mm mono just incase, as you said. Now, going back to the bait being ejected...

 

https://youtu.be/lRVc1meGraE

 

Any good?

[Ken L]

There have been reports of unstoppable fish on the Severn for decades and several reported catfish sightings - including sightings of kittens in the 4 to 5lb range.

As with the Zander, killing individuals is closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

[gozzer]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/143/pdfs/uksi_20140143_en.pdf

 

http://www.ouseaps.co.uk/alien-species-please-read/

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1458683.stm

 

Just a quick look online Andrew.

 

It depends how/how many individuals are killed Ken. But it will never happen, anglers seem to be of the opinion, "it's a fish innit, so it must be protected". It sickens me to hear anglers talking about otter, cormorants etc, and how they must be controlled, but mention trying to get rid of alien species of fish, and your committing blasphemy!

If nothing is done by anglers (however small) to obey the laws, and not release non native/alien species, then they can't complain about any other species, either flora or fauna that gets released. It's open house, do what you want as long as you don't take fish out, always use an unhooking mat, don't use a keepnet, and always keep some 'fish medication' in your tackle bag to help make them better!

 

John.

 

PS

Sorry for going of topic, but it really pees me off.

Edited July 16, 2015 by gozzer

[Anderoo]

Well, there are apparently still fish in the Severn so I expect it'll be ok...

 

If I stuck to the rules I'd be having to cart around and bury about 500 zander every season. Even if I did that, what difference would it make?

 

It doesn't actually matter does it? I wouldn't want to knock the life out of a huge, amazing creature after an epic battle just because it's in the rules.

 

If it was a little village pond then, ok maybe a catfish would need relocating. But in the Severn? It's probably been there for decades already.

[Ken L]

Personally, I would rather see the focus on proper biosecurity. Keep the unwelcome aliens out of the country rather than worrying about where they are once they are here - because that's not something you can control. Topmouth gudgeon were allowed into the country, ide were allowed in, sunbleak were allowed in, signal crayfish were allowed in, catfish were allowed in and several sturgeon species that live and breed in freshwater have been allowed in. Once they are here, you can't (with a very few exceptions) control them and even attempting to is a waste of resources - life will find a way - often with a little human help.

 

One of those rare exceptions was the Asian carp that were recently eradicated from a fishery and hopefully the country.

[Tigger]

Andrew, the zander simply can't do the damage that those cat's can and will do....check out the vid....

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/344842-94lb-catfish-caught-on-the-severn/

 

Gozzer, I totally agree with you, anglers moan about birds and otters etc that are actually native to our country and call for them to be culled or exterminated ! Yet they promote these invasive fish that pound for pound will most likely eat far more fish than any of the native pred's.

Anglers keep spouting about how they're conservationists and in reality they're one of the biggest threats to the waters and rivers !

 

There's so many anglers out who want to catch catfish and so **** the ramifications of introducing them so long as they can nip down the road and wind one in.

If they really want to catch one then why not just go to a specialist water that's been purpose built to house them or frigg-off to france or Spain or were they can catch some propper ones.

Edited July 16, 2015 by Tigger

[Phone]

disturbed,

 

Not really - if a fish takes the bait and then rejects it the bait can slide up your mainline - that's the issue. As for line - I too am in favor of using mono for any number of reasons when you are seeking large quarry. BTW with the exception of abrasion and poor technique the heaviest line you need is the swimming strength of the fish. For example, a healthy 20 lb. carp can exert between 12 - 15 lbs. Oddly the strongest fish are not the largest fish.

 

I have only been to Brazilian waters once and then wasn't technically in Brazil. You know the saying "when in Rome" well - you will do "best" by taking LOCAL advice. It helps if you speak Portuguese but not mandatory.

 

Phone

[Vagabond]

Order some 0.9mm mono just incase, as you said. Now, going back to the bait being ejected...

 

https://youtu.be/lRVc1meGraE

 

Any good?

That's a good technique, BUT .....don't forget the catfish will crush that bait on the take,possibly breaking it in half, and it doesn't necessarily have to eject all of it - just the tail bit - to bring a piranha to the main line. Often the ejection will come off the trace anyway, but a couple of cable ties might well hold the ejected bait remains on the line. Some sort of baffle between trace and main line is what is required. The problem is at its worst with a strong fish that runs upstream. Don't underestimate the ability of a fish to spit a bait out !