E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[chesters1]

Do you actually believe it barry it is in the brexit express anything to try and boost up brexit which in reality is going badly those poor Germans they are laughing at us with the rest of Europe .

Let them ,then let them make up the difference in contributions see how they laugh then

[Huge_Vitae]

Only lubbers call them portholes. They are side scuttles.

 

Where did you lose them?

 

That's one of those, which is correct questions.

 

Is a bike a bike or a cycle, or a pedal cycle?

 

Is a phone a telephone?

 

The list is endless and none can be 'correct'.

 

As for scuttle or porthole then the same applies, but if one were being pedantic and check the Library of Naval History one would find one 'correct' answer, which is porthole. (Other expert references are available!)

[barry luxton]

big_cod, on 27 Aug 2017 - 12:59, said:

Do you actually believe it barry it is in the brexit express anything to try and boost up brexit which in reality is going badly those poor Germans they are laughing at us with the rest of Europe .

 

spread around plenty of publications b c that trump is not happy with unbalanced trading between the usa and Germany, so he will be doing something about it. I really can't see the likes of Germany laughing at brexit and the u k, based on the fact that Germany needs it's export markets and the u k is one of it's most important, so perhaps you can put up the link to where you found all of Europe laughing at the u k, have you gat any facts based on that. Or is it all in your mind and cobblers.

 

I recon that the e u will have to put up or shut up this week regarding the u k's future contributions, they are going to have to justify legally any monies they consider is owed by the u k. Betcha david davis will ask that question this week.

 

have a look and read this for balance then: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/europe/briefing-papers/Briefing-paper-4

[corydoras]

That's one of those, which is correct questions.

 

Is a bike a bike or a cycle, or a pedal cycle?

 

Is a phone a telephone?

 

The list is endless and none can be 'correct'.

 

As for scuttle or porthole then the same applies, but if one were being pedantic and check the Library of Naval History one would find one 'correct' answer, which is porthole. (Other expert references are available!)

If one were being pedantic one would use International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea definition.

[chesters1]

Portholes and scuttles existed pre war so why solas?

I always thought port holes were portholes and scuttles where the water escaped from the deck ? But it makes no matter my boat had neither ,a couple of windows perhaps and a door but nothing else but a smell of **** ,dead mackeral and damp

 

Why porthole ?nothing on the starboard or did they only get opend in port?

I shall call them windows just as i call ropes string and masts sticks ,got great raised eyebrows in cowes week if you could talk above the skippers screaming at their crew

Edited August 27, 2017 by chesters1

[Huge_Vitae]

If one were being pedantic one would use International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea definition.

Nope, you're not being pedantic, just once again entering into a 'how high can you **** up a wall contest' because you can rarely admit a mistake.

 

I made reference in my post to 'other sources' which you chose to ignore and whip out the old codger!

 

My post was in response to:

 

Only lubbers call them portholes. They are side scuttles.

 

Where did you lose them?

 

 

Since the examples I gave you were not enough, how about Aluminium or Aluminum?

 

But since you quote SOLAS, quite probably written by a team of over paid lawyers having little input from Mariners, I would point out that SOLAS was conceived in response to the Titanic disaster of 1912 (fact) In his evidence to the Official Enquiry Fourth Officer Boxall (hardly a 'lubber' but I am sure not of your vast experience) stated words to the effect of 'On hearing the collision I immediately checked the side of the ship for damage and found nothing, not even a cracked PORTHOLE', later he evidenced attempting to contact the Carpathia by means of a signal lamp, evidencing the proximity of the ship by the fact that he could see 'lights coming from the individual PORTHOLES.'

 

Now returning to my source, it is well recorded that Henry VIII wishing to equip his warships with more cannon than could be accommodated on deck, commissioned a French naval architect to come up with a solution and the PORTHOLE from the French 'porte' was named and thereafter adapted.

 

As I said, both are correct, which is more correct?

 

I have tonight consulted a friend R. Hodgson now living in Gosport, he served on RMS Queen Mary almost from her maiden voyage till her last, so not a 'lubber' by any means, the answer he gave was PORTHOLES.

Edited August 27, 2017 by Huge_Vitae

[corydoras]

Portholes and scuttles existed pre war so why solas?

I always thought port holes were portholes and scuttles where the water escaped from the deck ? But it makes no matter my boat had neither ,a couple of windows perhaps and a door but nothing else but a smell of **** ,dead mackeral and damp

 

Why porthole ?nothing on the starboard or did they only get opend in port?

I shall call them windows just as i call ropes string and masts sticks ,got great raised eyebrows in cowes week if you could talk above the skippers screaming at their crew

SOLAS predates WWII and the Great War.

Scuttles are where water drains from the main deck. SIDE scuttles are "portholes".

 

The word "port" in this context has nothing to do with port and starboard it is just the French word for a door or an opening (think exhaust port).

 

If the weather gets a tad nasty you'll be told to make sure your side scuttle or port is closed but nobody calls them portholes.

Captains (heaven help you if you address a ships master as "skipper" or "skip") who screamed at their crew are informally known as pricks. The formal word cant be used on AN but it begins with c ends in t has a u and an end in the middle and rhythms with a flat bottomed boat propelled by a pole.

[Phone]

All, are the vessels you're talking about boats or ships, private pleasure, domestic, or military, floating or sub-surface. If I'm gonna Google I have to have the facts

I pretty much hate the water.

 

Phone

[big_cod]

 

spread around plenty of publications b c that trump is not happy with unbalanced trading between the usa and Germany, so he will be doing something about it. I really can't see the likes of Germany laughing at brexit and the u k, based on the fact that Germany needs it's export markets and the u k is one of it's most important, so perhaps you can put up the link to where you found all of Europe laughing at the u k, have you gat any facts based on that. Or is it all in your mind and cobblers.

 

I recon that the e u will have to put up or shut up this week regarding the u k's future contributions, they are going to have to justify legally any monies they consider is owed by the u k. Betcha david davis will ask that question this week.

 

have a look and read this for balance then: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/europe/briefing-papers/Briefing-paper-4

And the pound just keeps falling barry down again yesterday 1.08 to the euro god those who voted remaini will be stamping there feet and some of those who voted out will also be stamping there feet talks going well doesn't look like it very little confidence in sterling I wonder why . Edited August 28, 2017 by big_cod

[barry luxton]

Huge_Vitae, on 27 Aug 2017 - 21:32, said:

Nope, you're not being pedantic, just once again entering into a 'how high can you **** up a wall contest' because you can rarely admit a mistake.

 

 

 

But since you quote SOLAS, quite probably written by a team of over paid lawyers having little input from Mariners, I would point out that SOLAS was conceived in response to the Titanic disaster of 1912 (fact) In his evidence to the Official Enquiry Fourth Officer Boxall (hardly a 'lubber' but I am sure not of your vast experience)

 

 

Cory spent his time aboard flipping burgers. May have even made the grade, cook.

 

big_cod, on 28 Aug 2017 - 05:25, said:

And the pound just keeps falling barry down again yesterday 1.08 to the euro god those who voted remain will be stamping there feet and some of those who voted out will also be stamping there feet talks going well doesn't look like it very little confidence in sterling I wonder why .

 

Surprised your not worrying about the propped up euro causing major problems for your mate merkie.

 

those foot stompers aren't going to achieve anything of worth for the u k then are they. Will they migrate along with yourself once the u k leaves the political nightmare. If you go now, no visa required, will you revoke u k citizenship for german or French, Poland? see ya.

 

Can't see any reports of your foot stompers leaving the 'sinking' ship, only corporate could be would be threats, so just how worried are they or is it spin on your part.