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Peter Waller

Petition to keep the close season on rivers

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Chesters, just as there is a world outside of Broadland there is also a world beyond Farnham!

 

We have had all the arguements almost ad infinitum but one thing that appears largely lost on some folk is that tidal rivers do not have the protection of being managed by their owners.

yes but no but ,all land is owned by someone ,if the river is on someones land then the landowner decides who fishes and when ,if its from a boat then i doupt much notice of the closed season is taken anyway they just float in on a salty bit and out on a salty bit.

nothing to stop people getting the land owners onboard form a "group" who can then appoint bailiffs and put any rules they wish in place.

if ofcourse its one of those "blurred" bits of water on the coastline the authorities wont give a hoot anyway as they wont be getting income from it


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The closed season is a joke as in reality it serves no purpose. Fly fishermen still fish and often catch the coarse fish as do the coarse fishermen catch the trout in the game fish closed season. Also the fish are spawning during the closed season anyway and regarding bankside vegatation having chance to grow...well it just gets smashed down to re open pegs and if any poor wildlife/birds have made a nest there then that would unwittingly get destroyed in the process. Also the closed season causes a on mass of fishermen on the 16th and during the first few weeks putting a lot of pressure on the water who only go due to it being the first day. Those very same anglers may not of even thought of going fishing but for the silly ritual of the closed season. Narh.....the closed season should be done away with IMO.

 

Don't forget there are a lot of coarse anglers who will just switch over to trotting or fishing with worms etc so they're keeping in the boundries of the law.

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in total agreement with tigger :thumbs:

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in total agreement with tigger :thumbs:
It doesn't happen very often, but I agree with Tigger too in this instance. Unless that is someone can can show me scientific evidence supporting a closed season. Because it's always been that way and one does not want it changed is not evidence.

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in total agreement with tigger :thumbs:

And me.


 

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I support the idea that rivers and surrounding vegetation are rested and of course the fish get a chance to breed unmolested.

No bad thing for us anglers to have a break too - I'm exhausted after nine months of fishing hard and it'll be good to spend more time with my loved ones!

 

But... I would like to see some scientific evidence that the closure is effective between the dates currently set.

As one earlier poster also said, why these particular dates of March 15 to June 15 - tradition alone is not a good enough reason.

Interesting that at the recent Anglers net fish-in, people reported that the dace were spawning.

Other parts of the country such as Yorkshire have traditionally had different close seasons too.

 

Recently the Anglers Times called for the close season to be extended by a month as the winter has been so terrible and the angling tackle trade faced poor trading conditions during the recession.

I'm not sure if I agree with this angling newspaper’s proposals although there was a certain irony in the fact that many rivers were incredibly difficult to fish for months and were not visited by many, but as soon as the weather picks up, the chance to fish vanishes.

 

Is there room for flexibility around the country based on the scientific evidence showing us the optimum time to give the fish a break. Obviously, it could be confusing for anglers, but it would give fish the break they really need at the right time.


He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days without taking a fish. (Hemingway - The old man and the sea)

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Unless that is someone can can show me scientific evidence supporting a closed season.

 

Can I turn that around? Has anyone got any scientific evidence that it is a BAD thing? However out of date or flawed it is I simply can't see any reasons of why it can do anything but benefit the rivers!

 

I think it is highly unlikely there are any studies showing regular fishing is beneficial to rivers, but I'm sure there will be evidence that lack of fishing is beneficial...

 

The close season is more than just protecting the fish when they are spawning, clearly unless you want a close reason from January to October it may be better to just take it on the chin that some species spawn outside the close season. Have a look at your local commercial and see if you think all year round hammering is a good thing!

 

Rich

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Can I turn that around? Has anyone got any scientific evidence that it is a BAD thing? However out of date or flawed it is I simply can't see any reasons of why it can do anything but benefit the rivers!

 

I think it is highly unlikely there are any studies showing regular fishing is beneficial to rivers, but I'm sure there will be evidence that lack of fishing is beneficial...

 

The close season is more than just protecting the fish when they are spawning, clearly unless you want a close reason from January to October it may be better to just take it on the chin that some species spawn outside the close season. Have a look at your local commercial and see if you think all year round hammering is a good thing!

 

Rich

 

I don't want a year round hammering of the rivers.

 

I just want to ensure the close season is held at the best possible time for different species in different parts of the country.

 

What is the rational for March 15 - June 15 other than tradition?


He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days without taking a fish. (Hemingway - The old man and the sea)

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