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The website is currently telling everyone it can't handle licence issue and advises would-be anglers to get their licences via the Post Office.

 

I did just that, on March 26th.

 

Trouble is, although the village post office recorded the transaction right smartly, they now have to merely issue a receipt and leave the actual physical sending out of licences to the EA.

 

So far, the arrival of my licences has not happened. There is some silly "rule" printed on my receipt that says it is only valid for 28 days. More than half that has gone by already. Any ideas what I might say to a bailiff who tries to book me for "no licence" on Day 29 ?

 

What is it with this organisation ?

 

Every year, by law, many thousands of anglers need a licence on April 1st

 

Every year, surprise surprise, the EA finds it can't handle many thousands of applications all at once.

 

Why cannot licence issue be made "rolling" ? (ie run for 12 months from the date of issue). It would spread the administrative load, and be fairer to people taking up fishing late in the year.

 

Well, why not?

Dinosaurs at the top ? Too lazy or too incompetent to instigate a change ?

 

 

RNLI Governor

 

World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 .

Certhia's world species - 215

Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501

 

"Nothing matters very much, few things matter at all" - Plato

...only things like fresh bait and cold beer...

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Dave it would make my day if I was caught on "Day 29" I would look forward to the day in court!.............all though knowing how inflexible British Law can be it wouldnt surprise me if I was still done! Gets worse rather than better each year.

 

A "mole" within the EA's financing department recently told me that the powers to be were becoming very concerned with the actual "net" amount gained from the Rod Licence due to the administration costs. These in fact being the main reason for increases in the fee rather than getting more money to be used.

And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Any ideas what I might say to a bailiff who tries to book me for "no licence" on Day 29 ?

 

 

Dave I can think of all sorts to say to him but I think I may upset Elton if I posted them on his forum.

I don't see how you can be prosecuted or even taken to court if they have your coin and have proof of payment but they are to mixed up to post out your cards. I think they would just be paying court costs...out of licence money!

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Can't get a licence, can't take fish to eat, makes you wonder what the licence is for!

 

For the first time in my life I'm considering becoming a "poacher", obviously the first time I go fishing and take a perch for tea without a licence I'll get hammered.......I'll just pretend not to speak (the Queen's) English!

Eating wild caught fish is good for my health, reduces food miles and keeps me fit trying to catch them........it's my choice to do it, not yours to stop me!

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I got mine online for the first time this year. Filled in the forms with my renewal numbers, jumped through the verified by visa hoop, printed the acknowledgement emails in the meantime (went trout fishing at Farmoor with Steve W yesterday) and they both arrived in the post on Saturday, 3 days after application.

 

Not too bad I thought! The only complaint is that I had to go through the whole thing twice for two separate licences.

And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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The website is still down, and the telephone ordering service too, tried to buy mine yesterday ready for first trip of the "season" today, and ended up in a bit of a panic searching for a post office open on a Saturday afternoon!

 

Mat

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I attempted to buy mine online about a week prior to the old one running out. It was the payment which caused the problems and after 3 different cards were rejected it had to be a trip to the P.O. Talk about slow, I got it yestyerday. Tend to agree with Vagabond on this one apart from the fact that most of us will still have to renew at much the same time

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Can't really blame the EA for this one, as it's the Post Office as subcontractors who cannot cope. I applied for mine some time ago and they arrived within 3 days. I got an email from the EA for each licence reminding me to renew, followed by 2 letters telling me the same, after I had paid and was waiting for the new ones. It's the usual case of no joined up thinking, so the EA and the PO don't have a communal database to see what is happening. The EA have a system theat sends out reminders without knowing that you already have renewed. Wasting more time and money that could be better spent elsewhere

The two best times to go fishing are when it's raining and when it's not

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Can't really blame the EA for this one, as it's the Post Office as subcontractors who cannot cope.
What evidence is there for that statement ?

 

The post office coped with my two (different) licence renewals in 14 seconds. If they were allowed to hand out the licences there and then I would have them within minutes. But they are no longer allowed to do that. I see no reason whatsoever to claim the Post Office is at fault.

 

The hold-up is at the EA - if their website is down, presumably the information they get electronically from the Post Office (on a daily basis) is also held up.

 

I applied for mine some time ago and they arrived within 3 days.
Did you apply direct to the EA or via a Post Office ?

 

I got an email from the EA for each licence reminding me to renew, followed by 2 letters telling me the same, after I had paid and was waiting for the new ones....a system that sends out reminders without knowing you have already renewed
Well, no change there, then - but plenty of organisations do the same.

 

 

RNLI Governor

 

World species 471 : UK species 105 : English species 95 .

Certhia's world species - 215

Eclectic "husband and wife combined" world species 501

 

"Nothing matters very much, few things matter at all" - Plato

...only things like fresh bait and cold beer...

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Why cannot licence issue be made "rolling" ? (ie run for 12 months from the date of issue). It would spread the administrative load, and be fairer to people taking up fishing late in the year.

 

Well, why not?

Dinosaurs at the top ? Too lazy or too incompetent to instigate a change ?

 

Sounds like to good of an idea for any Government dept to ever put it in to practice :rolleyes:

Stephen

 

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Zander, Pike, Bream, Roach, Tench, Perch, Rudd, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Eel, Grayling, Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout

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Pike, Zander, Bream, Roach, Eel, Tench, Rudd, Perch, Common Carp, Koi Carp, Brown Goldfish, Grayling, Brown Trout, Chub, Roosterfish, Dorado, Black Grouper, Barracuda, Mangrove Snapper, Mutton Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Tarpon, Red Snapper

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Zander, Tench, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Roach, Rudd, Grayling, Brown Trout, Salmon Parr, Minnow, Pike, Eel, Common Carp, Mirror Carp, Ghost Carp, Koi Carp, Crucian Carp, F1 Carp, Blue Orfe, Ide, Goldfish, Brown Goldfish, Comet Goldfish, Golden Tench, Golden Rudd, Perch, Gudgeon, Ruff, Bleak, Dace, Sergeant Major, French Grunt, Yellow Tail Snapper, Tom Tate Grunt, Clown Wrasse, Slippery Dick Wrasse, Doctor Fish, Graysby, Dusky Squirrel Fish, Longspine Squirrel Fish, Stripped Croaker, Leather Jack, Emerald Parrot Fish, Red Tail Parrot Fish, White Grunt, Bone Fish
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Zander, Pike, Perch, Eel, Tench, Bream, Roach, Rudd, Mirror Carp, Common Carp, Crucian Carp, Siamese Carp, Asian Redtail Catfish, Sawai Catfish, Rohu, Amazon Redtail Catfish, Pacu, Long Tom, Moon Wrasse, Sergeant Major, Green Damsel, Tomtate Grunt, Sea Chub, Yellowtail Surgeon, Black Damsel, Blue Dot Grouper, Checkered Sea Perch, Java Rabbitfish, One Spot Snapper, Snubnose Rudderfish
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Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
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