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i got a wieght issue...

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no not body wieght.. but i am big lad lol.

but my issue is: wieghts: i normally use approx 2oz-3oz wieghts.

problem is carp can see the wieght so i have grown up hearing.. so shiney wieghts should be a no go... but yet i have caught off them.. but this year i want 100% stealth, i might catch more if i am pure stealth.. :lol:

what is the best company to use, and are matt finish better then smooth finish?

i thought i would ask before i do my early buy of wieghts B)

 

 

***EDIT***

 

also i like to use green black and brown colours

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Anderoo is the man to ask for all things camo :D

 

On a serious note I wouldnt worry too much about getting sucked into the whole camo thing. I have always done perfectly well without it so dont really see the need for it all. Unless you are chucking your bait really big distances a 1-1.5oz lead should be more than enough to get the hook up so that is already smaller than your 3oz weight and therefore less conspicuous. I would go for a matt finish if possible but wouldnt buy into all the camo rigs etc.

 

The way I look at it is if you are piling all these camo'd tubes etc on your rig you are only making it bigger and therefore easy to see. If a carp is clever enough to recognise a lead weight then I am sure it can recognise a large rig with leader etc after it has seen it so many times.

 

I would just try a lighter and more discreet rig and enjoy the fight more on a lighter setup.

 

P.S. your leads should always be chosen for function in my point of view and as long as it isnt flourescent orange or something it should blend in well enough.

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How shiney are the weights you use now and what's the usual water colour where you fish? How's your catch rate with the stuff you're using now?

 

Don't forget that the people who make you think you need these new leads work for the people who sell these new leads! It's all a bit grubby.

 

People seem to use all these bits and pieces now as a matter of course, rather than when they're actually useful. On the other hand, using some new leads definitely won't make things worse.


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For the ultimate in camo weights collect a few pebbles from the venue you are fishing, and araldite on a swivel!

 

much cheaper than "posh" carp leads too

 

 

Mat


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For the ultimate in camo weights collect a few pebbles from the venue you are fishing, and araldite on a swivel!

 

much cheaper than "posh" carp leads too

 

 

Mat

 

That's your Pallatrax sponsership out of the window Mat :lol:


And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music

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If going down the camo path, I use the "dung" style covered leads from time to time. Not so much because I think the camo covering makes that much difference but because you can soak the lead in liquid/oil dips for added leakage of attractors near the hook bait.


Stephen

 

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Dorado, Wahoo, Barracuda, Bonito, Black Fin Tuna, Long Tom, Sergeant Major, Red Snapper, Black Damsel, Queen Trigga Fish, Red Grouper, Redhind Grouper, Rainbow Wrasse, Grey Trigger Fish, Ehrenbergs Snapper, Malabar Grouper, Lunar Fusiler, Two Tone Wrasse, Starry Dragonet, Convict Surgeonfish, Moonbeam Dwarf Angelfish,Bridled Monocle Bream, Redlined Triggerfish, Cero Mackeral, Rainbow Runner
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Arapaima, Alligator Gar, Mekong Catfish, Spotted Sorubim Catfish, Pacu, Siamese Carp, Barracuda, Black Fin Tuna, Queen Trigger Fish, Red Snapper, Yellow Tail Snapper, Honeycomb Grouper, Red Grouper, Schoolmaster, Cubera Snapper, Black Grouper, Albacore, Ballyhoo, Coney, Yellowfin Goatfish, Lattice Spinecheek

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Check out Stonz.

 

Also watch the 2nd of Feb edition of Tight lines. some interesting discoverys about the weight of you leads being heavy enough for the fish to hook itself against.

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Dean I can safely say ignore all the rubbish you've read/heard re leads frightening fish or the fish picking up on the "electrical current between the hook and the lead" or any other such rubbish dreamed up by the carp "experts" whilst laid stoned on their bed chairs! Its tosh! Tosh (as Anderoo says) designed to sell gear or magazines. Far more important things to think about!

 

To get confidence just watch a few fish react (or rather "not react"!) to your lead in some clear water..........your water not clear enough for you to see? then good chance the fish cant either! Fish just aren't clever enough (or even feel the need it seems) to differentiate between an anglers weight and a stone yet alone associate them with danger.Ive even seen (when experimenting with them) carp try to suck "flavoured"/"attractor leads in!

 

That said Ive got all sorts of different colour leads! some with smooth finishes some textured some with "weed" stuck on them,some with sand.........................but that's only because I think they look pretty! Even the shiniest of new leads will soon go dull (if you cant wait (no pun intended!) then the old tip of sticking in vinegar for a few minutes is often advised to "dull" them but I don't know as Ive never had to do it!

 

If more anglers spent more time looking in the water rather in magazines it would be a lot harder for the "carp machine" to lead them up the garden path and part them with their wonga!


And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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Mind you to be fair I should say that I do try and avoid black coloured leads/rig components as black does stick out like a sore thumb on most bottoms and its no effort or expense to do so.

 

Kind of a contradiction there I suppose!as by saying that maybe I'm saying that a lead that sticks out could be a problem! but I'm sure you know what I'm getting at!


And thats my "non indicative opinion"!

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