The Traveller Found Dead?

[poledark]

When are some of the doubters going to get their heads out of the sand? It is not only "the traveller" that has been killed, there have been 3or 4 other big barbel killed on that same stretch of river recently.

 

Large barbel have also been killed on the Dorset stour.

 

These are fish which get noticed because they are big,no doubt many others are also being killed, but no carcasses are found.

 

For many years it has been accepted that Otters will kill and only partially eat a large fish, almost every programme about them shows pics of the remains of their prey, with the tell tale remains.

 

I fail to understand how any true angler (fish lover ? ) can believe that allowing Otters to prey unchecked on our rivers and lakes is a good thing.

 

Me? I am for fish 100% Cormorants out, Otters out, mink out.

 

Den

[peter mccue]

When are some of the doubters going to get their heads out of the sand? It is not only "the traveller" that has been killed, there have been 3or 4 other big barbel killed on that same stretch of river recently.

 

Large barbel have also been killed on the Dorset stour.

 

These are fish which get noticed because they are big,no doubt many others are also being killed, but no carcasses are found.

 

For many years it has been accepted that Otters will kill and only partially eat a large fish, almost every programme about them shows pics of the remains of their prey, with the tell tale remains.

 

I fail to understand how any true angler (fish lover ? ) can believe that allowing Otters to prey unchecked on our rivers and lakes is a good thing.

 

Me? I am for fish 100% Cormorants out, Otters out, mink out.

Den

 

 

Wonderful post Den, you are a glowing example of the caring all round conservationist that the present day joe public needs to see anglers as. God help us, will we ever learn!

[ljstronge]

When are some of the doubters going to get their heads out of the sand? It is not only "the traveller" that has been killed, there have been 3or 4 other big barbel killed on that same stretch of river recently.

 

Large barbel have also been killed on the Dorset stour.

 

These are fish which get noticed because they are big,no doubt many others are also being killed, but no carcasses are found.

 

For many years it has been accepted that Otters will kill and only partially eat a large fish, almost every programme about them shows pics of the remains of their prey, with the tell tale remains.

 

I fail to understand how any true angler (fish lover ? ) can believe that allowing Otters to prey unchecked on our rivers and lakes is a good thing.

 

Me? I am for fish 100% Cormorants out, Otters out, mink out.

 

Den

 

I couldn't disagree more.

 

All though I'm not sure if your taking the micheal or not.

 

Certain animals in this country feed on fish for survival we anglers in general fish for pleasure, we are not fishing to feed ourselves.

 

Let them be, they were here before us I'm sure.

[zedhead]

"Me? I am for fish 100% Cormorants out, Otters out, mink out.

 

Den"

 

Den, you havent got a clue though, your basing your opinion on ill founded old fashioned angling lore. Im afraid that is not how natural systems are in the real world, we as anglers cannot control everything just to meet our fishing demands.

[BoozleBear]

Try and keep up Boozle

 

 

See: http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.p...69701&st=60

 

And: http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=70872

C.

 

 

Well perhaps I didn't see it as the threads were entitled "New Barbel Record, Traveller Caught Again" and "Apathy Rules".

 

Don't have enough time to read all the threads and one about the same fish being caught the third time didn't really appeal, and I missed the other.

 

Just woken up after Christmas?

 

Rather old news...

Edited January 10, 2007 by BoozleBear

[corydoras]

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Me? I am for fish 100% Cormorants out, Otters out, mink out.

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I hope you are taking the Michael because if not you are at risk of making a total Richardhead of yourself in a public forum. Both the otter and the cormorant have got more right to hunt and kill barbel for food than you have to take one out to have for a wee look at it.

[Cranfield]

Only going to get worse. Apparently you can't even use the tried and tested mink hounds to cull them now. The tree huggers have deemed the practise barbaric, and it's part of the ban on hunting with dogs. Legislation covering country matters being made by people whose closest 'country' experience is a walk round Hyde Park when the temperature's high enough.

 

You are legally permitted to use a pack of hounds to hunt mink.

However, when the mink has been found, you have to withdraw all of the hounds except two.

Hunting normally takes place between May and September, but will extend into October if the weather allows.

[gozzer]

Otters? Mink? You think you've got problems?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_y...ire/6250141.stm

 

We had one further downstream at Ulleskelf a few years ago, and one at Linton-on Ouse.

When one of these moves into your swim, it just bobs up and looks at you for a while, then carries on feeding.......I wonder if you could train it to catch Mink

 

John

[BoozleBear]

You are legally permitted to use a pack of hounds to hunt mink.

However, when the mink has been found, you have to withdraw all of the hounds except two.

Hunting normally takes place between May and September, but will extend into October if the weather allows.

 

Superb, let's organise a mink hunt!

 

Do we get to ride on horses in red jackets? (Us in red jackets, not the horses, that would be silly). And blow a daft horn after getting a bit squiffy on port?

[Vagabond]

1.Do we get to ride on horses

2.in red jackets?

 

1. Nope, our local otter hunt (and I believe mink hunts followed the same pattern) hunted on foot. Getting squiffy on port beforehand would have been a bad idea, with a day's hard running in front of you.

 

2. Nope, the master. the huntsman and the whippers-in wore dark green jackets, the followers wore what they damn well please.

 

..and in those days, before the advent of "animal rights" , there were plenty of fish in our streams, the occasional otter, and no mink.