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Hugh,

 

I know Chesters1 point. The question is - does Big Cod?

 

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I know you do Phone equally as much as I know he doesn't understand much, I was hoping that we could enter into a protracted series of postings where we could show Big Clod that his statement that the fall in the value of the Pound has cost the Country 'Billions' was misinformed.

 

Although, as in the past with a lot of things that he posts, one can see he is influenced by unreliable sources, sadly, on the rare occasion that he states things not simply cut and paste or linked to articles of a.n.others it is, upon simple investigation, simply bullocks as well!

 

But never mind, it takes my mind away from the problems of the moment, and the fact that I am always trying to help others out, sometimes is a 'forlorn hope' some people are so tunnel visioned that they are afraid to move their heads.

 

There is an old saying, or rather two which I chose to combine.

 

There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

There are none so deaf as those who do not wish to listen.

 

To which I add....

 

There are none so stupid as those who do not wish to learn.

 

PS. If you wish to lend me £1,000 at the moment you can, sadly at the moment you will make more money on the deal than I can.

"My imaginary friend doesn't like your imaginary friend is no basis for armed conflict...."

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You really haven't got a bloody clue have you?

 

Barry, I don't know why we bother, the man's education obviously stopped the day he walked out of school for the last time, or to quote Mark Twain, "Never let school get in the way of a good education."

 

I will not allow you Clod to drag me down to the level of gutter press or social media, If I was minded I could reply to you with a question such as, Do the family you are quoting work for RyanAir? Because if they do, you probably won't give a damn as long as you can get a £9.99 flight!

 

And on the same vein why can you still get a £9.99 flight when RyanAir are a Euro based Company and the Pound is supposedly 'on its Arse!

 

But in any case, since Trump is another target of your informed critique, prior to the result of the US elections, holiday firms conducted a poll to understand visitors intentions following a possible Trump victory, following the data analysis a conclusion was made that said Trump victory would have an immediate negative effect on visitor numbers, following the actual Trump victory adjustments were made to make a US holiday financially attractive to UK visitors, these adjustments are still being made by holiday providers and operators to keep it so and are thus absorbing the cost difference. You won't read this in the newspapers because it does not sell papers but the information is there, freely available if you take your head out of your backside long enough to read it.

 

Wether or not people from the UK actually visit the US, or indeed how much they spend whilst there is of little importance to the finances of UK, what is important is the amount of visitors TO the UK, this increases with the rates currently trading.

 

Before you scoff, note that visitors TO the UK counts for around 9% of our GDP in the last few years and during the period 2010-13 an increase in visitors led to an increase of the number of people directly employed within the tourism industry by nearly 150,000 people.

Again not good headlines!

 

As for your comment that the only thing to effect the value of the £ is brexit, have you noticed that there is a slight bit, just a little, tiny little problem in the Pacific with a place called North Korea, or perhaps that the UK currently has 800 odd troops in Estonia looking across their gun sights at a 775,000 strong Russian Military MAY, or just ever so slightly might be causing instability.

 

Not so easy to reason now, far easier to make all encompassing statements about Brexit because you don't want it or support it.

I havent got a got a clue ? my lord just-look whos talking tunnel vision doesnt come into it i say to you again since the brexit vote the pound has crashed Badly now in 2017 over 12 million brits went abroad last year spending near on £39 billion now it shouldnt be to hard to work out unless you dont want to except the facts should it your currency is down more than 20% with the exchange rate with all major currencies you are over 20% out of pocket no ifs no butts and yes billions out of pockets now if the brexit gets cancelled do you think the pound will rocket .

 

As for trying to associate North Korea for the slump in the pound utter crap you say instability the only instability in the uk is Brexit if you havent noticed but you dont want to see that you cant see that North Korea may send gold and oil prices rocketing but the slump in the pound rubbish ? anything but brexit a swerve is the moon made of cheese .

 

Now you still havent answered my question Hughie why did the pound slump minuites after the brexit vote was announced .

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/gbp-live-today/7195-gbp-to-eur-and-usd-conversions-ing-warning

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big_cod, on 27 Oct 2017 - 04:27, said:

I havent got a got a clue my lord just-look whos talking tunnel vision doesnt come into it i say to you again since the brexit vote the pound has crashed Badly now in 2017 over 12 million brits went abroad last year spending near on £39 billion now it shouldnt be to hard to work out unless you dont want to except the facts should it your currency is down more than 20% with the exchange rate with all major currencies you are over 20% out of pocket no ifs no butts and yes billions out of pockets now if the brexit gets cancelled do you think the pound will rocket .

 

As for trying to associate North Korea for the slump in the pound utter crap you say instability the only instability in the uk is Brexit if you havent noticed but you dont want to see that you cant see that North Korea may send gold and oil prices rocketing but the slump in the pound rubbish anything but brexit a swerve is the moon made of cheese .

 

Now you still havent answered my question Hughie why did the pound slump minuites after the brexit vote was announced .

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/gbp-live-today/7195-gbp-to-eur-and-usd-conversions-ing-warning

 

 

your link clearly shoots your argument in the foot b c. you need to read it and understand that what this one analyst is saying is one sided with no mention as to why the euro is overvalued, creating a massive issue for the euro and those who rely on it for spending.

 

now if you read your link thoroughly it clearly self corrects it's self within another article where is does mention the issue with the euro. So your claim that the pound crashing (your words) because of brexit doesn't ring true because of the problems around the euro, why won't you accept reality? Two years the ecb has been pumping billions of euros into the market. Inventing monies to protect the currency. It will end in a devaluation on a massive scale. ohhhh and the ecb is able to purchase using pounds that the u k has deposited previously with them as well. Quote from the same link, from a current posting:

 

The Pound-to-Euro exchange rate advanced two a new three-week best following the news the European Central Bank is in no rush to raise interest rates. Analysts suggest further gains are likely.

It's all about the Euro side of the Euro-vs-Pound exchange rate at present with eyes on the European Central Bank which cuts its asset purchase programme by €30BN at their October policy meeting, with the cut becoming effective in January.

The Bank will continue buying bonds at this pace until at least September 2018.

There was nothing surprising in the announcement for markets which had been bidding up the Euro over recent months in anticipation of this decision.

But the Euro did take a tumble against the majority of major currencies as there were reasons for markets to sell the Euro - the ECB indicated it is still in no rush to raise interest rates and could ultimately continue its asset purchase programme for a prolonged period.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I havent got a got a clue ? my lord just-look whos talking tunnel vision doesnt come into it i say to you again since the brexit vote the pound has crashed Badly now in 2017 over 12 million brits went abroad last year spending near on £39 billion now it shouldnt be to hard to work out unless you dont want to except the facts should it your currency is down more than 20% with the exchange rate with all major currencies you are over 20% out of pocket no ifs no butts and yes billions out of pockets now if the brexit gets cancelled do you think the pound will rocket .

 

As for trying to associate North Korea for the slump in the pound utter crap you say instability the only instability in the uk is Brexit if you havent noticed but you dont want to see that you cant see that North Korea may send gold and oil prices rocketing but the slump in the pound rubbish ? anything but brexit a swerve is the moon made of cheese .

 

Now you still havent answered my question Hughie why did the pound slump minuites after the brexit vote was announced .

 

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/gbp-live-today/7195-gbp-to-eur-and-usd-conversions-ing-warning

Dont you read your own links? Or Barry's posts?

 

"Indeed, the Pound is wallowing at fresh eight-month lows against the Euro as we speak, largely thanks to a fresh bout of Euro strength following the ECBs July policy meeting."

 

It is people behind the scenes manipulating things to make money on whispers ,look how much companies are making due to the global warming excuses of the past ,look at how much money WE are giving away to companies through laws most others dont follow ! Its money for excuses!

Still cannot see why others going abroad is a concern ,its their choice to want to give their money to foreigners why should they get any help to do so? I would put the aviation fuel tax up to 70% and use it to fund the NHS ,we could write it on a bus! After all it pays duty on its fuel why should you get cheap flights when bus companies have to pay tax on their fuel ?

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Dont you read your own links? Or Barry's posts?

 

"Indeed, the Pound is wallowing at fresh eight-month lows against the Euro as we speak, largely thanks to a fresh bout of Euro strength following the ECBs July policy meeting."

 

It is people behind the scenes manipulating things to make money on whispers ,look how much companies are making due to the global warming excuses of the past ,look at how much money WE are giving away to companies through laws most others dont follow ! Its money for excuses!

Still cannot see why others going abroad is a concern ,its their choice to want to give their money to foreigners why should they get any help to do so? I would put the aviation fuel tax up to 70% and use it to fund the NHS ,we could write it on a bus! After all it pays duty on its fuel why should you get cheap flights when bus companies have to pay tax on their fuel ?

Not everybody wants sit at home being being a miserable so and so now the pound has gone just a few cents either way in the last few months nothing massive either way but just to remind you and hughie boy this was the day after the brexit vote and since then the pound has crashed much further due to massive uncertainty with brexit with how brexit is going to affect the uk economy.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/23/british-pound-given-boost-by-projected-remain-win-in-eu-referendum

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http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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Your links are bias and lies fit for toilet paper so why post them?

 

Tell me this if i choose to put my hand in a fire and i get burnt who cares? If you choose to go abroad and lose a few beers worth of euro you expect me to give a damn?

 

Its very easy ,dont CHOOSE to go abroad ! Spend your money here instead ,why should anyone give a crap about your selfishness?

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Your links are bias and lies fit for toilet paper so why post them?

 

Tell me this if i choose to put my hand in a fire and i get burnt who cares? If you choose to go abroad and lose a few beers worth of euro you expect me to give a damn?

 

Its very easy ,dont CHOOSE to go abroad ! Spend your money here instead ,why should anyone give a crap about your selfishness?

So I am selfish ? god almighty please have you ever thought you might be selfish Chesters me me and me thats you but do I care what you think of course I dont I couldnt give a flying hook and I sure the 12 million who went abroad last year would say just the same. Edited by big_cod

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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So I am selfish ? god almighty please have you ever thought you might be selfish Chesters me me and me thats you but do I care what you think of course I dont I couldnt give a flying hook and I sure the 12 million who went abroad last year would say just the same.

Its your CHOICE so why whine when it hurts you in the pocket ?

Think of the tourists coming here on their cheap holidays propping up your lifestyle with extra tax think of our exports doing the same because the currency exchange favours us ,but ofcourse your just thinking of you

Edited by chesters1

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

Life insurance? you wont enjoy a penny!

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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