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[Huge_Vitae]

Don't know what the rest of you think, just my opinion you understand, and i don't mean to wind anybody up BUT.

 

Surely some white working class boy from a Council Estate should never be singing "Pie Jesu."

 

It should be sung by some Italian with loads of dosh eating a cornetto.

 

Were there any white British boys about when it was first penned?

Edited April 16, 2008 by John S
Borderline racist comment deleted

[Sportsman]

It's a well known fact that there was a large council estate (or ghetto) on the outskirts of Rome in the 14th century so small white English boys would have been a familiar sight in Rome High Street. Given that most of them would have been Jesters or Clowns, then singing would have been part of their job description. My personal feeling is that we should have more of this type of reality TV.

Bravo! BBC, it's what I pay my license fee for :

 

(To be honest, I have never watched it, I have no interest in it and I don't know anything about it, but I read about it in the Guardian and so I feel very strongly that it is a good thing, and should be stopped immediately)

Edited April 16, 2008 by Sportsman

[gozzer]

I object to the 'sizist' and 'snobbery' that's implied on this thread.

If a 'working class lad from a British council estate want's to sing, then he should be allowed to.

But he should be made to sing the full traditional version, not one to tailored to suit todays PC mad society.

 

 

The full version is,

 

 

 

" Would you like mushy peas with that Pie Jesu?".

 

 

John.

Edited April 16, 2008 by gozzer

[Sportsman]

Just what planet are you on HG? I am not Scots, I'm an immigrant, and it's well known that we have been here for donkeys years.

As for you Gozzer, well I'm sorry to offend your modern day PC tendencies but it is well known that sizeism and snobbery were the norm up Rome High Street in that era. Just because we don't call people "oiks" anymore doesn't mean that we never did. My father certainly did anyway, and my sister was an oik until she grew out of it.

This airbrushing of historical fact in the name of PCism just won't do.

 

On an historical note, mushy peas were not introduced into Italy until the late 19th century with the arrival of hordes of immigrants from Blackpool following the ice cream wars of 1888. This means that it is unlikely this working class comestible would have been available at the time the so called "song" was written.

Edited April 16, 2008 by Sportsman

[hembo]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman...icle1027066.ece

 

 

mushy peas may not be around for that long.

 

the young lad actually wants to win to get out of the estate he lives on.

[five bellies]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman...icle1027066.ece

mushy peas may not be around for that long.

 

the young lad actually wants to win to get out of the estate he lives on.

 

 

The only link between tantrums and Mushy pease I can see, is the one Id have if I was made to eat them.

 

The Jesus Pie song can be sung by any one exept fat old Londoners who sound like Arthur

Mullard and of course poeple who live in Uzbekistan

And ony because it would sound silly sung in a Borat type vioce.

[gozzer]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman...icle1027066.ece

mushy peas may not be around for that long.

 

the young lad actually wants to win to get out of the estate he lives on.

 

You don't say Hembo http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/forums/explain...ngs-t83244.html

 

 

But it will never happen.

Members of the MPFA, will fight them to the last.

Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR MUSHY PEAS

 

In fact the only way they'll ever take them is from my cold dead hand.

 

John.

[Sportsman]

look Gozzer

 

All opera singers are, by definition, Italian (I looked it up)

All Italians come from Rome (it is the only city in Italia after all)

Therefore all opera singer are Romans (ipso facto)

 

Sorry that I offended you by mentioning oiks but the fact is my father always referred to "those oiks off the council estate". You may not like it but it's true. We even had one in our school for a little while, but we soon saw him off back to where he belonged. Ahh happy days )

BTW my mother came from Lancashire and she was raised on mushy peas, in fact she had nothing else to eat for the first 47 years of her life. I wouldn't dare suggest her staple diet came from Yorkshire of all places.

I think maybe you didn't understand the question

[Guest sandpipper]

Hi Huge look at craig david brought up in st marys, for any one who doesnt know southampton its not somewhere you could walk on your own at night

[peter mccue]

Uh oh I've just thought you lot might be serious!