big_cod 144 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, chesters1 said: The EMFF and ofcourse red diesel and most probably a host of other incentives I would stop red diesel tomorrow why should some get it but not others because of a lifestyle choice? A fishermen doesn’t get one pence in cash from the government and as they are classed as essential workers like farmers .they worked right through the lockdown to keep you and rest of the public supplied with fresh food . And they massive amounts of taxes etc to help pay for free bus passes etc for people like you do they complaint NO . A fishermen doesn’t get one pence in cash from the government and as they are classed as essential workers like farmers .they worked right through the lockdown to keep you and rest of the public supplied with fresh food. Food prices will rise because of lorry parks it’s all coming home to rooster all the secrets of brexit are unfolding by day . Brexit ‘shambles’ has ruined UK reputation, says senior diplomat Outgoing high commissioner in Singapore says Britain seen as divided and ‘careless of truth’ You cannot defend the indefensible brexit is a complete shambles and will not save the U.K. billions but will cost us billions the British people were lied to by the Brexiteers. Edited October 11, 2020 by big_cod http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1549 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Christ you come up with some crap they get subsidies from the tax payer then they get subsidies on their fuel ,they are not essential workers british farmers produce very little today and if your fishermen get tax payers money for selling their catch to europe then they are producing nothing for us either. If people choose to work in a unsubstainable industry then tax payers shouldnt be maintaining them , do plumbers running diesel vans gto use red diesel? Do busses ? No they dont so why should others get it! If they dont get aid then why this? Their own mouth proves your talking crap as usual https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/welcome-for-new-grants/ https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-announces-financial-support-for-englands-fishing-businesses Theres so much help their running out of letters to make abbreviations https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ieep.eu/uploads/articles/attachments/02c519d9-dfe7-4855-aa07-f47a1e2d32d4/subsidiesreport.pdf%3Fv%3D63664509689&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJqsmvtazsAhUQQhUIHYirBOE4ChAWMAl6BAgCEAE&usg=AOvVaw0tEUE5QSBcUae-BZg5T3KV HMRC even run a scheme so the poor fishermen dont "forget" to save their tax money,poor things! Edited October 11, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
big_cod 144 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, chesters1 said: Christ you come up with some crap they get subsidies from the tax payer then they get subsidies on their fuel ,they are not essential workers british farmers produce very little today and if your fishermen get tax payers money for selling their catch to europe then they are producing nothing for us either. If people choose to work in a unsubstainable industry then tax payers shouldnt be maintaining them , do plumbers running diesel vans gto use red diesel? Do busses ? No they dont so why should others get it! If they dont get aid then why this? Their own mouth proves your talking crap as usual https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/welcome-for-new-grants/ https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-announces-financial-support-for-englands-fishing-businesses Theres so much help their running out of letters to make abbreviations https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ieep.eu/uploads/articles/attachments/02c519d9-dfe7-4855-aa07-f47a1e2d32d4/subsidiesreport.pdf%3Fv%3D63664509689&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJqsmvtazsAhUQQhUIHYirBOE4ChAWMAl6BAgCEAE&usg=AOvVaw0tEUE5QSBcUae-BZg5T3KV HMRC even run a scheme so the poor fishermen dont "forget" to save their tax money,poor things! First as fishermen are essential workers fishermen worked right through the lockdown to provide food exactly the same as farmers you are wrong on the first count. And there produce saw a massive drop in price reducing there income dramatically so like any other business sourced Covid relief. Crap do you know how pathetic you are is that the best you can do so fishing like any other business who has been affected with Covid 19 they shouldn’t get financial help So what you are saying is all businesses affected by Covid 19 who get financial help should not and go to the wall .You need to have a very series look at yourself Brexit has mashed your head . Edited October 11, 2020 by big_cod http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1549 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) So people who use tax payers money to land their catch on european soil are essential ,to who? Edited October 11, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
big_cod 144 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, chesters1 said: So people who use tax payers money to land their catch on european soil are essential ,to who? Really !! And do does that go for farmers selling there produce abroad ???? More brexshit more brexit secrets unfolding and in the brexpress they have put a contract out on johnson.You know it’s all going tits up when the Brexiteers are arguing among themselves .The self destruct button has been pressed .. But they do need to get be over it they won .You can lie to the people some of the time but not all of the time . Edited October 11, 2020 by big_cod http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1549 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Poor poor cod still whining and crying you didnt want to leave europe ,now whining and crying we have ,cant wait for your whinng come february Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
big_cod 144 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, chesters1 said: Poor poor cod still whining and crying you didnt want to leave europe ,now whining and crying we have ,cant wait for your whinng come february Don’t poor me it’s you who should be worried as you said yourself who ever Sighned the agreement want horse whipping ,No I am just reporting the facts as they unfold and lies that were told prior the referendum now exposed .And that big red bus it’s now being crushed destroy all the evidence .But just one problem the lies ain’t going away those will be held to account . You will enjoy this there’s your brexit It could be a pack lies but !!!! https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1346362/Brexit-news-eu-trade-deal-latest-boris-johnson-michel-barnier-brussels-sell-out Edited October 11, 2020 by big_cod http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
Phone 728 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Cod, You are confusing me (not hard to do really). Let me see if I have this straight. 70% of the commercial catch by UK fishermen goes to foreign buyers. 70% of the commercial fish consumed in the UK come from foreign fishermen. According to your government the only "key" essential workers are the lads who unload the massive container ships of foreign fish bound for the UK market. - - - Have I got that right so far? As for the boats themselves, you the captain, decide when to fish or cut bait. Only those unloading the foreign supply ships are key workers. I suppose there were strings attached to the 10 million pound supplemental monies paid BRITISH fishermen when their FOREIGN markets got soft? Phone Link to post Share on other sites
big_cod 144 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Phone said: Cod, You are confusing me (not hard to do really). Let me see if I have this straight. 70% of the commercial catch by UK fishermen goes to foreign buyers. 70% of the commercial fish consumed in the UK come from foreign fishermen. According to your government the only "key" essential workers are the lads who unload the massive container ships of foreign fish bound for the UK market. - - - Have I got that right so far? As for the boats themselves, you the captain, decide when to fish or cut bait. Only those unloading the foreign supply ships are key workers. I suppose there were strings attached to the 10 million pound supplemental monies paid BRITISH fishermen when their FOREIGN markets got soft? Phone LSo you didn’t mentions farmers have You forget about them being essentisl workers ,they work the land for food fishermen work the sea for food to bring to the table to feed the people .So the lumpers who unload the fishing boats are essential workers and fishermen who fill them up aren’t Really phone Now what percentage of there produce is sold here or abroad is irrelevant .Whitby harbour was closed along with many other ports to boats for private use during the lockdown . .Commercial vessels that included fishing boats landing shellfish , whitefish etc were allowed to sail as they were classed as essential workers now I hope that has made It clear . I know you live 1000s of miles away I take exception to the fact . The benefits of brexit even David frost the chief brexit negotiator laughs at Michael Gove as he blurts out the benefits of brexit .Because quire simply there isn’t any . Edited October 11, 2020 by big_cod http://sea-otter2.co.uk/Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat Link to post Share on other sites
chesters1 1549 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) If you look at the government paper that defines "essential" workers every man and his dog bar pubs clubs and sports etc are essential ,obviously you never noticed couriers were working flat out delivering so it looks like you are the bottom of the list lol The highstreet wasnt closed because they wernt essential but simply because they couldnt put into place the covid rules ie spacing and ppe I have had no problem buying from amazon ,ebay and every other business from socks to replacement panes for my greenhouse ,hardly what is regarded as "essential" If poor old cod couldnt work it doesnt say much for your impact on the help to the human life of england ,might aswell sail off to belgium or france and join your chums PS what happened to those shortage of workers the farmers were whining about in the spring ,all those threats of price hikes because they couldnt get their cheap labour ,prices down from last year ,it was all just excuses as i predicted except no-one fell for it and they couldnt charge more because it was all lies the workers were already here AND prepared for covid by shifts forming their own "bubbles" ,poor poor farmers fooling only poor poor cod Edited October 11, 2020 by chesters1 Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle Mathew 4:19 Grangers law : anything i say will turn out the opposite or not happen at all! "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson Link to post Share on other sites
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