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a day of teaching the final conection


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ALL, 

Spent the morning with great grandchildren helping them learn  the final connection. I'll leave it at that but would appreciate your input

F I R S T KNOT  palomar knot

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Frankly, I BECAME A LITTLE FRUSTRATED - 8YR OLD AND TWINS 11 (BOY&GIRL) and ended up with letting them fish partially with BAD knots - - I DON'T LIKE THAT - TO MANY BAD OUTCOMES POSSIBLE

 

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The first knot looks like a Palomar knot and the second looks like a half tucked blood knot.

I know others may think differently but I no longer use any form of blood knot because I don’t really like using strangle knots which can drastically reduce knot strength, or knots where the line end exits the knot sideways; and I usually use just three knots: the uni knot (or Grinner) or occasionally the Palomar knot and the knotless knot for hair rigs.

[i]NB: Some smaller hooks have eyes that are too small for passing the doubled line of the Palomar knot which is why I tend to use the 4 or 5 turned uni knot (or Grinner) although I think the Palomar and the uni knot both have excellent knot strengths.[/i]

Keith

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ALL,

YES, my bad, I failed to identify the knots by name.

I agree with both posts - hard to go 3 on 1, especially when the "one" doesn't have the patience they used to. I would go exclusively with the Palomar knot except BB hit the nail on the head. The pre-matched combo, rod and reel, I purchased comes preloaded with anchor wire (I believe). At least 12 and maybe 15 lb. In as much as we were going to be catching "dinks" my hook selection was #8.  That left out the possibility of using a palomar. BARELY get the line through the eye once

When I was 10 I didn't have a clue what a palomar was, if it even existed in fishing.

NOW on to the second knot. In the US it is commonly referred to as a "Trilene" knot. It is, I Guess you would  call it an "improved cinch" knot (?).

The primary problem seemed to be with the kids, spastic, with zero attention span and little pride when the job was done correctly. Toward the end I came to believe KOOL-AID should be banned from the planet. I had no other explanation. (Of course it couldn't have anything to do with the instructor)

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No.2 looks suspiciously like what I would call a 'tucked half blood knot' over here. But what do I know, I've only just progressed from velcro strapped shoes ! 😉

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Granny for me thanks

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My principle 're knots is to avoid strangle knots where the bit above the hook  eye is a single strand around which the rest of the knot forms a wrapping .(as in the blood knot family)

Both the grinner and the Palomar avoid this (although in different ways)  if either of these knots is tied carefully and snugged down they will not (pun intended) fail.

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3 hours ago, Vagabond said:

My principle 're knots is to avoid strangle knots where the bit above the hook  eye is a single strand around which the rest of the knot forms a wrapping .(as in the blood knot family)

Both the grinner and the Palomar avoid this (although in different ways)  if either of these knots is tied carefully and snugged down they will not (pun intended) fail.

Totally agree Vagabond, I've a good few eyed hooks left but now tie them like I would a spade end. (by hand - don't like hook tyers that much)

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