Disgusted with this police state

[Sportsman]

The crazy thing is that most knife crime by youngsters involves kitchen knives they have taken from their parent's kitchen.

[RobStubbs]

The crazy thing is that most knife crime by youngsters involves kitchen knives they have taken from their parent's kitchen.

I'm not sure which of that is meant to be 'crazy' ?

 

Perhaps, and just perhaps, because they can no longer buy knives they take whatever they can get hold of or they use nothing ? This 'could' be indicating a good thing because they'd surely rather carry some 'street cred' lock or flick knife and they can't now get hold of them.

 

Rob.

[Sportsman]

I'm not sure which of that is meant to be 'crazy' ?

 

Perhaps, and just perhaps, because they can no longer buy knives they take whatever they can get hold of or they use nothing ? This 'could' be indicating a good thing because they'd surely rather carry some 'street cred' lock or flick knife and they can't now get hold of them.

 

Rob.

 

The crazy thing refers to stopping the importation of high quality and expensive knives when they are seldom used in crime.

If a 14 year old wants a knife he goes to his mothers kitchen and takes one out of the drawer. He doesn't order one from the States over the internet.

It is just being seen to be doing something, like taking handguns away from legal owners but leaving them with the criminals. It is an easy target.

Street cred knives tend to be big and showy i.e. Bowie style or hunting style sheath knives.

I also do not understand what make a locking pen knife more dangerous than a non-locking penknife.

I carry an Opinel folding knife (within the legal limit) but when you twist the collar it is locked open. Does that count as a lock knife I wonder?

http://www.opinels.co.uk/carbon-steel-kniv...bon-lock-knife/

Edited December 22, 2009 by Sportsman

[ayjay]

I also do not understand what make a locking pen knife more dangerous than a non-locking penknife.

 

In the unlikely event that I were planning on stabbing someone, I would want to use a knife that I knew was not going to fold in half at an inconvenient moment.

[Sportsman]

In the unlikely event that I were planning on stabbing someone, I would want to use a knife that I knew was not going to fold in half at an inconvenient moment.

 

 

I see your point but to be honest if I am doing anything with a knife I don't want it to fold onto my fingers, hence the Opinel.

I am surprised the the Health and Safety squad haven't had something to say about the folding blade.

[Jim Roper]

I carry an Opinel folding knife (within the legal limit) but when you twist the collar it is locked open. Does that count as a lock knife I wonder?

 

It does, according to our local police.

[corydoras]

I carry an Opinel folding knife (within the legal limit) but when you twist the collar it is locked open. Does that count as a lock knife I wonder?

When you move to Frace you'll be able to tote your Opinel everywhere you go. It's expected.

[RobStubbs]

The crazy thing refers to stopping the importation of high quality and expensive knives when they are seldom used in crime.

If a 14 year old wants a knife he goes to his mothers kitchen and takes one out of the drawer. He doesn't order one from the States over the internet.

It is just being seen to be doing something, like taking handguns away from legal owners but leaving them with the criminals. It is an easy target.

Street cred knives tend to be big and showy i.e. Bowie style or hunting style sheath knives.

I also do not understand what make a locking pen knife more dangerous than a non-locking penknife.

I carry an Opinel folding knife (within the legal limit) but when you twist the collar it is locked open. Does that count as a lock knife I wonder?

http://www.opinels.co.uk/carbon-steel-kniv...bon-lock-knife/

 

Importation has not been stopped or outlawed. Customs appear to sometimes target knives for whatever reason, but there doesn't appear to be any specific reason for this or any law they are following.

 

As for locknives they are not banned, they become fixed blades and you need to be very careful about why you have one and why you are carrying one.

 

Shooting UK forum question on lock knives

 

Rob.

[Tigger]

My wife finally got through to the numpties at UK Border control agancy and they said it's been seized due to the fact that it's a gravity knife (flick knife). Just shows how dense they are as the knife is a folding lock knife.

I've now got to put it in writing to try and get it back.......who knows what ****s they'll come out with now.

Oh and they say I may have to go to Majistrates court "IN LONDON"!!!!! if I want it back. I live in Lancashire .........all this hasstle over a perfectly legal knife, obviously some one there has got their eye on it.

[RobStubbs]

My wife finally got through to the numpties at UK Border control agancy and they said it's been seized due to the fact that it's a gravity knife (flick knife). Just shows how dense they are as the knife is a folding lock knife.

I've now got to put it in writing to try and get it back.......who knows what ****s they'll come out with now.

Oh and they say I may have to go to Majistrates court "IN LONDON"!!!!! if I want it back. I live in Lancashire .........all this hasstle over a perfectly legal knife, obviously some one there has got their eye on it.

 

Put it in writing first and see where that gets you. I think you can also over rule their chosen magistrates court if you wish - to one more appropriate to you. I'm sure a similar thing happened to my parents and they changed courts to a local one to them - the other party then gave up and the case wasn't contested.

 

Good luck and don't give up.

 

Rob.