Gun Control

[snakey1]

But it doesn't have a similar rate of civilian gun ownership. Switzerland has 45 guns per 100 residents where the UK has 6.6.

Their rate of gun ownership is 6.8 times higher than that in the UK which is a rather interesting correlation with their rate of gun homicides being 5.75 times higher than ours don't you think?

 

Again, it doesn't.

 

Not really. Overall crime rates don't just relate to guns. Social inequality, poverty, the nature of the criminal justice system and many other factors play a significant part.

Of the countries that you've mentioned, Iceland is the anomaly, with high rates of gun ownership but very low crime (especially homicide) rates.

 

I don't think a 10% variance is going to be significant.

Actually Ken there are an estimated 4,000,000 civilian owned firearms in the UK as opposed to 3,400,000 in switzerland so not taking it as a per capita figure the actual amount of civilian owned weapons is pretty similar if not higher in the UK.

If you want to take the actual number of firearm homicides into account instead of the per capita figures then these may interest you

Switzerland 2013: 18UK 2011: 38

2012: 13 2010: 33

2011: 22 2009: 26

2010: 15 2008: 40

2009: 24 2007: 15

 

 

According to the Wikipedia page (admittedly it is wiki) Iceland has a firearms homicide (not death rate I'm not including suicides) rate (based on year 2007) of 0.32 per 100,000 while Switzerlands (based on 2013) was 0.23 per 100,000 so once again Yes ,according to those figures, it does have a lower firearm homicide rate than Iceland

 

I assume the anomaly your talking about with regards to high firearms ownership but low crime rates is Switzerland not Iceland as there are only approx 90,000 civilian owned firearms in Iceland. We could try Norway then whose civilian firearm ownership rate is 31.3 nearly 5x that of the UK yet the firearms homicide rate (taken from the wiki table) was 0.04 exactly the same as the UK

Canada i will admit is slightly worse with an ownership rate of 30.8 but a firearm homicide rate of 0.51

 

Equally I could point out Honduras has a ownership rate of 9.9 per 100 not even double the UKs but a firearms homicide rate of 64.8 nearly 20x that of the USA and 1600x that of Norway, Or perhaps Brazil with an ownership rate of 8.6 per 100 and a firearms homicide rate of 18.1

Edited June 24, 2015 by snakey1

[chesters1]

It would be interesting to see the deaths in america based on temperature ,i get pretty cranky when it gets above 25c (20 is just bearable ) so those with a gun and cranky may use it more ?

 

Found this but perhaps your fingers snap off before the hammer falls

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22288564

Edited June 24, 2015 by chesters1

[Ken L]

Actually Ken there are an estimated 4,000,000 civilian owned firearms in the UK as opposed to 3,400,000 in switzerland so not taking it as a per capita figure the actual amount of civilian owned weapons is pretty similar if not higher in the UK.

If you want to take the actual number of firearm homicides into account instead of the per capita figures then these may interest you

Switzerland 2013: 18UK 2011: 38

2012: 13 2010: 33

2011: 22 2009: 26

2010: 15 2008: 40

2009: 24 2007: 15

 

 

According to the Wikipedia page (admittedly it is wiki) Iceland has a firearms homicide (not death rate I'm not including suicides) rate (based on year 2007) of 0.32 per 100,000 while Switzerlands (based on 2013) was 0.23 per 100,000 so once again Yes ,according to those figures, it does have a lower firearm homicide rate than Iceland

 

I assume the anomaly your talking about with regards to high firearms ownership but low crime rates is Switzerland not Iceland as there are only approx 90,000 civilian owned firearms in Iceland. We could try Norway then whose civilian firearm ownership rate is 31.3 nearly 5x that of the UK yet the firearms homicide rate (taken from the wiki table) was 0.04 exactly the same as the UK

Canada i will admit is slightly worse with an ownership rate of 30.8 but a firearm homicide rate of 0.51

 

Equally I could point out Honduras has a ownership rate of 9.9 per 100 not even double the UKs but a firearms homicide rate of 64.8 nearly 20x that of the USA and 1600x that of Norway, Or perhaps Brazil with an ownership rate of 8.6 per 100 and a firearms homicide rate of 18.1

Yes but there's no getting away from the fact that there are only 8m people in Switzerland.

[chesters1]

And most of them are making watches and awful chocolate triangle things

[Phone]

All,

 

Number One statistic. If you are going to a gun fight - you better have a gun.

Phone

[corydoras]

If you want to take the actual number of firearm homicides into account instead of the per capita figures ...

Why on earth would you want to do that? Edited June 25, 2015 by corydoras

[chesters1]

All,

 

Number One statistic. If you are going to a gun fight - you better have a gun.

Phone

 

and insurance

[snakey1]

Why on earth would you want to do that?

why not?

[Dave H]

In an ideal world all guns should be banned but its not an ideal world and all that can be done is to curbe it as much as we can.

[snakey1]

In an ideal world all guns should be banned but its not an ideal world and all that can be done is to curbe it as much as we can.

In whose ideal world would that be ? because it wouldn't be mine