Hunting, shooting and fishing poll

[Emma two]

Still out on the rats as well at the mo, waiting for confirmation, one will be along shortly, no doubt.

 

Perhaps, but then again maybe not, that type of dogmatic christianity tends not to stand up well to even the most simple scrutiny. Or maybe its just that christians go to bed early? (I stayed up to watch match of the day).

 

 

No its a wee bonny hill top loch in Argyll.

 

Braw!

[kleinboet]

Quote - Emma2 - "There are revisionist anthropologist/historians who provide strong evidence to support the notion that 'christianity' predates the supposed birth of the mythalogical jesus character, and that the figure was invented to but a human element onto their philosophy. Christianity may have been cult of jewish paganism. As such it may have been relativley harmless, however after being imporrted to Europe it rendered the area a spiritual wasteland for 16 centuries.

 

And there are people who will "prove that the eath is flat"

The word Christian means 'follower of Christ', so how can it predate the birth of Christ?

By the way you reference to "mythological" person of Jesus is wrong - whilst Christians search to prove beyond doubt the things done by him (and, funnily, the more they search, the more they find!) the actual existence of Christ is no longer in question! He is even mentioned in the Quran!

[Emma two]

the actual existence of Christ is no longer in question! He is even mentioned in the Quran!

 

Fantastic, it says so in the Q'uran, so it must be true?

 

The theory of the jesus character predating christianity, the earliest christians being a group of nostic philosophers with a bluprint for social life whe needed a character to hang the ideas on is to me far more plausable than all that 'virgin birth' stuff and the shameless hi-jacking of an ancient pagan festival hang it on.

 

Books are full of all kinds of strange characters, doing all manner of incredible things, however that doesnt necessarily make them real!

Edited October 19, 2008 by Emma two

[five bellies]

What a great thread, Its refreshing to see that by and large no personal attacks have been made,

Klienie I am bring up a comment that you made in a post about two years ago, That when you where resident in South Africa you you owend a hand gun one wich you purchased and was trained to use by the local police. This was after the horendus murder of a colaegue and friend,Wich must have been terrible for you and I am genuinliy sorry. But, and im sorry to have to use this as a comparison how on earth can the ownership of a hand gun wich realy has only one practical application sit with your faith, At some piont If the worst happend you would have been put in a position to have had to of used it,Now I would have made you one hundred percent right to protect yourself and your loved ones but it would have involved the real possibillity of you takeing a life,

 

is your Chistianity a reawakening or have you been a Christian all your life?

 

Also untill Jesus arived ( I have absoulutley no dout he existed ) the concept of The Christ existed a lot of poeple where waiting for him unless I am mistaken So would not followers of that particular doctorine been Pre Jesus Christians?

 

Also isnt there a passage in the Bible about the beasts of the earth and the fruits of land being put here for mans benifit I wouldnt know the proper phraseing of the passage let alone what part of the bible or any it was taken from nor would I agree with it, I just heard an old Rasta freind of mine who was quite a pious chap use it to justify a healthy Ganga crop he had at the end of an abandond allotment.

Edited October 19, 2008 by five bellies

[corydoras]

Quote - Emma2 - "There are revisionist anthropologist/historians who provide strong evidence to support the notion that 'christianity' predates the supposed birth of the mythalogical jesus character, and that the figure was invented to but a human element onto their philosophy. Christianity may have been cult of jewish paganism. As such it may have been relativley harmless, however after being imporrted to Europe it rendered the area a spiritual wasteland for 16 centuries.

 

And there are people who will "prove that the eath is flat"

The word Christian means 'follower of Christ', so how can it predate the birth of Christ?

By the way you reference to "mythological" person of Jesus is wrong - whilst Christians search to prove beyond doubt the things done by him (and, funnily, the more they search, the more they find!) the actual existence of Christ is no longer in question! He is even mentioned in the Quran!

Christianity may be no more than a rehash of the Horus, Isis, and Osiris 'trinity'. KB Even if you could prove 100% that your omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, immutable, eternal god existed, I could not worship him, for he is a monster.

[corydoras]

Also untill Jesus arived ( I have absoulutley no dout he existed ) the concept of The Christ existed a lot of poeple where waiting for him unless I am mistaken So would not followers of that particular doctorine been Pre Jesus Christians?

 

Also isnt there a passage in the Bible about the beasts of the earth and the fruits of land being put here for mans benifit I wouldnt know the proper phraseing of the passage let alone what part of the bible or any it was taken from nor would I agree with it, I just heard an old Rasta freind of mine who was quite a pious chap use it to justify a healthy Ganga crop he had at the end of an abandond allotment.

FB Pre christian christians were called Jews.

 

Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."" Perhaps?

[five bellies]

FB Pre christian christians were called Jews.

 

Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."" Perhaps?

 

 

That could be the Passage Cory thank you,

 

Jews, Yes of course even a man of limited wit, like my self new that much, but within Juidisum there where Sects and Cults this was the piont I was trying to make.

Edited October 19, 2008 by five bellies

[kleinboet]

Funny you should choose that passage. Do you honestly believe that we are in God's image? This is why me, as an analytical chemist, can believe as we are constantly evolving and WILL, one day, be in "his" image! If you want to further this discussion, make a new thread!

[gozzer]

Funny you should choose that passage. Do you honestly believe that we are in God's image? This is why me, as an analytical chemist, can believe as we are constantly evolving and WILL, one day, be in "his" image! If you want to further this discussion, make a new thread!

 

Hi Kleinboet, I'm intrigued by your theory, and would like to hear more.

I will open a thread in the Non Fishing forum, and (if you don't mind) paste your comments onto it.

 

See you over there.

 

John.

[corydoras]

That could be the Passage Cory thank you,

 

Jews, Yes of course even a man of limited wit, like my self new that much, but within Juidisum there where Sects and Cults this was the piont I was trying to make.

There are other verses very similar to that throughout the Bible FB.