E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[big_cod]

Provably one if not the most success company in the history of build cars in the uk is Nissan with union recognition terrible aint it .

Edited December 8, 2016 by big_cod

[Ken L]

Just in case anyone missed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WfwX68E6Ys

[gozzer]

Thanks for that Ken, I had missed it. I've had similar conversations with people, only for them to end it abruptly, after accusing me of being obtuse.

At least a side of a bus was never mentioned, and that makes a pleasant change.

 

John.

[chesters1]

Provably one if not the most success company in the history of build cars in the uk is Nissan with union recognition terrible aint it .

I have said it before i would love to own your blinkers ,you only ever mention nissan which in most probability its unions are bribed to keep their noses out and not destroy the company yet totally ignore all the unions that put millions on the dole because they turned the country into a laughing stock with continual strike action that not only drove the companies to fold or drove them abroad or into foreign ownership because the owners couldnt stomach the constant whining from the union pillocks,show's putting millions on the dole great for unions and their despicable leaders?

Look around your house ,just count how much is made overseas ,why is that ? not enough union meddling or in the past far to much?

Unfortunately you live in a fantasy world while i live in the real one where jobs are not for life ,if you refuse to work you get sacked and asking for more pay can tip the balance between a company competing and going under ,you of course prefer the latter

I have sat in union meetings listening to union leaders making up scenarios to cause strike action so they can thumb their noses at the bosses ,i have no reason at all to think anything has changed just like in politics you give a bit of **** power and they WILL abuse it

Remember without the owners stumping up the money no jobs would exist and hopefully in my lifetime the sorry state of unions (employees) telling the bosses what to do is a long forgotten memory

Higher pay = less workers = more robats who dont need good working condition and a tea break every five minutes and especially they dont need unions to ruin things.. If unions get to cocky chinese workers who dont complain ,work all hours under the sun and for very little get the work ,its so obvious work it out for yourself

And robots as well!

 

Theres a reason nissan exists here and its nothing to do with unions the benificial part of unions went when they stopped asking with offers and started demanding with threats

Edited December 8, 2016 by chesters1

[big_cod]

I have said it before i would love to own your blinkers ,you only ever mention nissan which in most probability its unions are bribed to keep their noses out and not destroy the company yet totally ignore all the unions that put millions on the dole because they turned the country into a laughing stock with continual strike action that not only drove the companies to fold or drove them abroad or into foreign ownership because the owners couldnt stomach the constant whining from the union pillocks,show's putting millions on the dole great for unions and their despicable leaders?

Look around your house ,just count how much is made overseas ,why is that ? not enough union meddling or in the past far to much?

Unfortunately you live in a fantasy world while i live in the real one where jobs are not for life ,if you refuse to work you get sacked and asking for more pay can tip the balance between a company competing and going under ,you of course prefer the latter

I have sat in union meetings listening to union leaders making up scenarios to cause strike action so they can thumb their noses at the bosses ,i have no reason at all to think anything has changed just like in politics you give a bit of **** power and they WILL abuse it

Remember without the owners stumping up the money no jobs would exist and hopefully in my lifetime the sorry state of unions (employees) telling the bosses what to do is a long forgotten memory

Higher pay = less workers = more robats who dont need good working condition and a tea break every five minutes and especially they dont need unions to ruin things.. If unions get to cocky chinese workers who dont complain ,work all hours under the sun and for very little get the work ,its so obvious work it out for yourself

And robots as well!

 

Theres a reason nissan exists here and its nothing to do with unions the benificial part of unions went when they stopped asking with offers and started demanding with threats

Chesters for hooks sake its made in China cod it's cheap labour nothing to do with unions which panet you on India next would you work for what Chinese labour gets would you NO is the answer stop blaming unions for company's going over seas it's cheap labour they want more profit .

 

An ok just for good measure it's just been announced half the banks in London will be moving to France after artickle 50 is enforced billions in tax lost good old brexit !!!!

 

This could be a disaster for the uk economy ,

[chesters1]

And whom forces wages up here? Fairies no its unions ,still no mention of why miners went on the dole cheap chinese labourers shipped in to dig it out or union led wage rises and better working conditions made the british coal industry uncompetitive so it folded.

Why did the british car industry fail ? Chinese labourers shipped in to make cheap cars ? Two things mostly they were crap and workers couldnt be punished because at the slightest excuse there would be a strike and the unions forced companies to raise wages far above what a company could susttain and remain competative.

Exactly the same with ship building

 

Whats the common denominator ? Bolshy unions sticking their noses into other peoples companies

 

Hopefully your old enough to remember the 60's and 70's when unions destroyed what exports we had if not bite your tongue

 

Ps cheap labour was the very thing i pointed out AND the reason we cannot provide it you are still living in your delusion life is nice and everyone gets what they want

Chinese labour is cheap because their cost of liviing is cheap they will eventually price themselves out of the market when they get unions and demand better standards then inflation rises and they want more and soon someone else will provide the labour africa looks perfect

 

Your just as delusional as the hysteria over kinder eggs being filled for a pittance by roumanians ,who in their right minds thinks someone is paying a worker to fill something that costs 50p? A decent wage its laughable

I have no doubt over here some union bastard would demand 75p a go and then rightly see their members replaced by a machine and that few pence they should get become zero pence and a place in the dole line

 

I would really love tto visit your fantasy land where someone is Paid £20 an hour to make two things in that hour that sell for a fiver each

Edited December 8, 2016 by chesters1

[barry luxton]

An ok just for good measure it's just been announced half the banks in London will be moving to France after artickle 50 is enforced billions in tax lost good old brexit !!!!

 

This could be a disaster for the uk economy ,

 

 

Go look at how many times the banks cry wolf. That's before the brexit vote btw.

 

The last time significantly was just before the u k turned down the chance to join the euro. The banks at the time were claiming if we don't join the u k economy was going to hell in a cart.

 

btw, your last line, could, should or will, might be, or possible, can you check what correct word is more appropriate to be used.

[big_cod]

 

 

Go look at how many times the banks cry wolf. That's before the brexit vote btw.

 

The last time significantly was just before the u k turned down the chance to join the euro. The banks at the time were claiming if we don't join the u k economy was going to hell in a cart.

 

btw, your last line, could, should or will, might be, or possible, can you check what correct word is more appropriate to be used.

You better hope they are bulkshitting Barry . Edited December 8, 2016 by big_cod

[big_cod]

And whom forces wages up here? Fairies no its unions ,still no mention of why miners went on the dole cheap chinese labourers shipped in to dig it out or union led wage rises and better working conditions made the british coal industry uncompetitive so it folded.

Why did the british car industry fail ? Chinese labourers shipped in to make cheap cars ? Two things mostly they were crap and workers couldnt be punished because at the slightest excuse there would be a strike and the unions forced companies to raise wages far above what a company could susttain and remain competative.

Exactly the same with ship building

 

Whats the common denominator ? Bolshy unions sticking their noses into other peoples companies

 

Hopefully your old enough to remember the 60's and 70's when unions destroyed what exports we had if not bite your tongue

 

Ps cheap labour was the very thing i pointed out AND the reason we cannot provide it you are still living in your delusion life is nice and everyone gets what they want

Chinese labour is cheap because their cost of liviing is cheap they will eventually price themselves out of the market when they get unions and demand better standards then inflation rises and they want more and soon someone else will provide the labour africa looks perfect

 

Your just as delusional as the hysteria over kinder eggs being filled for a pittance by roumanians ,who in their right minds thinks someone is paying a worker to fill something that costs 50p? A decent wage its laughable

I have no doubt over here some union bastard would demand 75p a go and then rightly see their members replaced by a machine and that few pence they should get become zero pence and a place in the dole line

 

I would really love tto visit your fantasy land where someone is Paid £20 an hour to make two things in that hour that sell for a fiver each

You been down a pit Chesters I bet you haven't they deserve a £1000 a week for working in that **** .

 

Union basted hey what an attitude from a low life prick . .

Edited December 8, 2016 by big_cod

[corydoras]

You been down a pit Chesters I bet you haven't they deserve a £1000 a week for working in that **** .

 

Union basted hey what an attitude from a low life prick . .

It's attidudes like that that had British Steel buying coal from Poland in the 1970s. I used to work on bulk carriers in the '70s we used to run backwards and forwards between Gdansk/Gdynia to Immingham or Recdcar. Talk about taking coals to Newcastle.