Ultimate bobbin

[poledark]

Tigger,perhaps I should add that I know a lot of guys who regularly use flying B/L very successfully, but you did ask if I used them

 

There is also that I like to see all the little twitches on the feeder :) and B/leading damps them down..........................AND...... I usually forget to slip the flying ones on before tying on the feeder and hook link

 

Den

[Anderoo]

The main problem I found with flying backleads was that the wind catches them - on longer casts through a stiff side wind, it can really ruin accurate casting.

[tincatinca]

Interesting comments brought up by Den in a recent post regarding vibration due the movement of bank sticks. This is one of the reasons why I am converting a rod pod as I also do not like the effect of wobbly bank sticks especially on a stage when there is a good blow and you can hear the tapping of the banksticks on the stage which has got to transmit down the line. Whether it will work properly has yet to be tested but I am sure that I can achieve a much more solid set up than previous. I am also a big fan of back leading under the rod tips but tend to rely on a good length of anchor tube at the business end to pin down the line along with an additional pinch of tungsten putty up the line if required as I do not want anything else that could get fouled up unless I knew for certain that the bottom was clear and not undulating in which case flying back leads may be used.

[Anderoo]

I'm intruiged about this idea of vibrations travelling from banksticks down the line to the rig, and its effect on fish. Could anyone tell me what it's based on and why it should worry fish? And what effect do bite alarms have?

[poledark]

Quite simple really, ros tip moves...line moves....some reaction at the lead /feeder....................especially with braid.

 

Conversely, if a fish moves/tugs at my bait, then it shows on the rod tip/bobbin.

 

As to whether it affects the fish,, who knows??? I would rather simply try to eliminate it, and I can, so I do

 

 

 

Den

[Tigger]

Yeah but A lot of time twitching bait can bring a bite on Den as it brings attension to the bait.

[Anderoo]

Quite simple really, ros tip moves...line moves....some reaction at the lead /feeder....................especially with braid.

 

Conversely, if a fish moves/tugs at my bait, then it shows on the rod tip/bobbin.

 

As to whether it affects the fish,, who knows??? I would rather simply try to eliminate it, and I can, so I do

 

 

 

Den

 

Yes I get that, but why the assumption that it spooks fish?

[Anderoo]

Being serious now Those long rodrests will sway around in any wind far more than a bobbin will, and the rod will wave about all over the place in a slight breeze.

 

Sorry, just noticed this! With banksticks set properly a bobbin will definitely move more than either rod or banksticks, whatever the weather. Hence heavy swingers.

[tincatinca]

After what seems like an age, the mods to the rod pod and swinger monkeys are now complete. What started as a fairly simple concept of making some long swingers soon developed into sorting out a system that could be used for virtually most situations whether on the bank, on a stage, rods set high or low and would be useable for most types of specimen fishing but particularly Bream and Tench.The key factor soon found as time progressed was maintaining rigidity and many hours were spent in working out how to achieve this with a few failures on the way. The system has yet to be tried in anger but I am very confident that it will work. The final problem was ensuring rigidity on a landing stage but a simple clamping mechanism has resolved that issue either by screwing to the stage or bringing a rod up from beneath the stage through the gaps in the planks. The system can use long or short swingers which are fully adjustable and also monkey climbers which are also capable of being mounted from the frot or rear. The swinger/monkey mounts can be placed and clamped anywhere along the frame of the pod which is important dependant on the ring spacings of the rods used. Both the swingers and monkeys can be loaded to suit the conditions varying from extremely light to heavy so the set up can be varied from long range to freelining in the margins. All that is left now is to test them which hopefully will be in the next couple of weeks or so. To give an idea of size, the length of the swinger arm from the pivot pin to the end of the arm is 26 inches. Forgot to mention that you can also attach bobbins

Edited April 16, 2010 by tincatinca

[Dick Dastardly]

What can I say Paul! From start to finish this has been so interesting to see,A simple problem that turned out to be anything but simple! Great finished item mate.