Ultimate bobbin

[Tigger]

I reckon useing back leads will also stop line bites. I might start to use both flying back leads combined with captive back leads to keep the line well and truly pinned down all the way to the hook.

[lutra]

I reckon useing back leads will also stop line bites. I might start to use both flying back leads combined with captive back leads to keep the line well and truly pinned down all the way to the hook.

From the small amount of time I've done messing around with back leads, i cant say I've found them much use. You need the lake to have a flat bottom (no drop offs or bars) for them to work 100% and at the end of the day line bites can be a source of information. Just my take on them Ian.

[Tigger]

From the small amount of time I've done messing around with back leads, i cant say I've found them much use. You need the lake to have a flat bottom (no drop offs or bars) for them to work 100% and at the end of the day line bites can be a source of information. Just my take on them Ian.

 

 

 

Yeah your right Brian, they probably won't be as useful in some venues.

[Dick Dastardly]

Yes I would agree with that Brian.

[Anderoo]

I've given both captive and flying backleads a fair go at various gravel pits (some of which have more features than others) and couldn't get on with them. In fact, with a fish fighting under the rod tip (especially at night) I found it was much more likely to wipe out all the other rods.

 

Now I just use a couple of blobs of tungsten putty a few feet above the rig to keep that line on the bottom, let the rest sink naturally, and accept that the rest is off the bottom. I don't necessarily want to avoid line bites anyway, I just want to avoid striking at them. Hence the long swingers/bobbins.

[Steve Walker]

Not sure I would have the bottle to be seen dead with them though

 

Not a problem, I think:

 

They'll only be used in windy weather, mostly at night

 

 

 

 

Sorry to be a sceptic Anderoo, but unless you find some way of stopping them from swinging about sideways, i cant see you getting much kip on them windy nights.

 

Looks to me as if the hinge does not have any freedom to move sideways? I think this design will eliminate indications caused by the bobbin being blown from side to side - it remains to be seen to what extent that is the cause of changes in tension in the line rather than the action of wind and wave on the line.

 

I reckon what you really need is a bivvy big enough to get your entire rod pod inside it and out of the wind...

[Kappa]

Sorry to be a sceptic Anderoo, but unless you find some way of stopping them from swinging about sideways, i cant see you getting much kip on them windy nights.

 

Thats the point though! The swingers don't swing from side to side as the hinge doesn't allow (much) sideways movement. I've seen them in the flesh ans I'm very jealous, they'll work prefectly I reckon!

 

Rich

[Anderoo]

There is a tiny bit of sideways movement but I'm happy with that. It means that they are very free running and don't 'stick'. I'm working on the good enough principle, if they create less beeping than madly swinging bobbins I'll consider them a success! In practice they are very stable.

 

Also they cost a total of about £30 for 3 for all the bits and required nothing more than a drill, hacksaw and araldite, which I don't think is too bad.

 

I really like them And enjoyed making them!

 

Now, if only I could remember how to tie a knotless knot...

Edited March 29, 2010 by Anderoo

[lutra]

Thats the point though! The swingers don't swing from side to side as the hinge doesn't allow (much) sideways movement. I've seen them in the flesh ans I'm very jealous, they'll work prefectly I reckon!

 

Rich

I'm not a sceptic of swingers Richard, I use sorter standard ones myself a lot and even they aren't 100% when its blowing good. I think your right and they will work, maybe even well, but i just get the feeling the extra length therefore leverage and area the wind has to play with......

 

Yes i can see and know the hinge won't move much sideways, but what stops them slipping round on the clips where they fasten to the bank sticks with? Maybe another bank stick at the side might help if that's a problem when/if it gets windy.

 

The proof of a pudding is in the eating and all that. Best of luck and let us know how you get on with them.

[Dales]

Looks like a lot of fun, especially with limited resources

 

Of course they will work, if a fish hooks itself then they will go all the way up ( or even down)

 

Not sure I would have the bottle to be seen dead with them though

 

 

Den

 

Sounds like some one is a tackle tart

 

I am sure they will do the business and look forward to seeing pictures of the big fish they help to produce.