So can you kill a burglar in your house

[Snatcher]

Hey Mr T Iger why has this one been dragged up? Everything I said was a total lie and I did not hit them very hard. They hit their heads on the kerb officer!

Actully been perfecting my right uppercut on the punchbag at he gym. Reckon I could now spark wor lass on a good day! LOL

[chesters1]

i think your not allowed to torture them for several hours before ringing the fuzz :mad: mind you youl probaly have several hours after ringing them ,just say he kept trying to evade the arms of the law and multi restraining blows had to be used

[Steve Burke]

chesters1:

mind you youl probaly have several hours wait after ringing them

Not if you say you've just killed him! They'll be roound in a shot!

[Alan Stubbs]

SandTiger:

Alan, the key word is grossly disproportionate and also a refferal to the DPP before charge?

This still means it isn't clear as to what is allowed and what is not, and relies on the judgment of the director of public prosecutions' opinion as to whether or not you stand trial.

 

The point I am making is that had the law been specific there would have been no debate about if's and maybe's.

[corydoras]

One does not have carte-blanche to murder an intruder, nor to extract revenge or retribution! Why is this such a difficult concept for some to get their heads around?

[rob.i]

not a difficult concept just a different way of thinking

[Peter Sharpe]

I always find that it's best to ask them to step out onto the lawn before killing them. It makes a hell of a mess indoors and that Cillit Bang cleaner can ruin any ornamental granite surfaces.

[Newt]

corydoras:

One does not have carte-blanche to murder an intruder, nor to extract revenge or retribution! Why is this such a difficult concept for some to get their heads around?

Not sure if the UK rules are that similar to ours but note the use of 'unlawful' to describe a killing that would class as murder.

 

Definitions of murder on the Web:

 

unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being

www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn

 

The unlawful killing of a human being by another with malice aforethought, either expressed or implied. (see Homicide; compare Manslaughter)

www.co.fresno.ca.us/2810/Glossary/glossary.htm

 

The unlawful killing of a human being by another with malice aforethought, either expressed or implied.

www.indygov.org/courts/glossary.htm

 

The unlawful killing of a human being with deliberate intent to kill. Murder in the first degree is characterized by premeditation; murder in the second degree is characterized by a sudden and instantaneous intent to kill or to cause injury without caring whether the injury kills or not. (See also manslaughter.)

www.aoc.state.nc.us/district15b/orange/Glossary.htm

 

The unlawful killing of a human being by another with malice aforethought, either express or implied.

www.unt.edu/cjus/Course_Pages/glossary.htm

[SandTiger]

Our rules are different - Do they change from state to state where you are?

[Jaffa]

Why is this subject given such a high profile when its not an issue in real life? IMO the law as it stands is bloody sensible.

 

Nobody i know of, even through "friend of friends" kind of connections, has ever been charged with defending themselves against a housebreaker.

 

I can think of a few local evil b*stards and night club minders that could twist any change in the law to suit themselves though. "Sorry officer found him at my back window and you know how it is..."