E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[Sportsman]

We have plenty going on on Europe's southern border - the MSM just isn't reporting it.

 

Lauren Southern's upcoming documentary "Borderless" is going to land just in time ti influence the European elections.

Seems that the only people who come out of that looking well are the refugees/asylum seekers.

Families in a small tent for 3/4 years, with no facilities and nothing to look forward to, so 50 or 60 asylum seekers get the shite kicked out of them by some riot police. Edifying viewing.

[gozzer]

You're saying that as if the guy in the video was telling the truth, rather than giving his own completely biased opinion.

 

No Dave, I'm saying that some people are so blinkered, that they won't even listen to anyones opinion if it doesn't agree with theirs.

 

If they don't listen to the opinion of others, how would they know if it's valid or not?

 

John.

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[Sportsman]

Ken

Did the people in that video look like they were looking to destroy your culture and rape your children?

You've been watching too much Infowars.

[big_cod]

So what's your position? Are you suggesting that due to events that took place decades or centuries before anyone here was born, we deserve to be invaded, have our culture destroyed and our children raped?

We deserve to be invaded our culture destroyed and our children raped anybody who rapes anybody black or white is scum and should be dealt with accordingly our culture destroyed interesting one that one exactly what do you mean by that , and invaded by who exactly and you do know that 10% of the UK population British people over 5 .5 million are living abroad .

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[Sportsman]

OK John

That particular person has been shown on here quite a few times. I have seen and listened to his opinion and I seriously disagree with it in just about every way.

As for having respect for others opinion, I don't see a great deal of respect shown to anyone who happens to disagree with the brexit majority on here. I get called names on quite a regular basis for instance.

It's strange, I always thought that I was right wing, always voted Conservative, would never vote Labour and hated the concept of Socialism. The problem isn't right wing politics per se, it is the right wing people and the loud mouth bullying tactics that you see from the likes of Trump and his Republican party enablers or Yaxley-Lennon and his anti Islamic goons that I despise, and I use the word advisedly.

The person in the video called the Guardian newspaper (not a paper I read, by the way, )although I have often been called a "Guardian reading lefty snowflake") anti-semitic. What a shame that he is another one who doesn't know the difference between anti zionist and anti semitic. I don't like the terrorist tactics used by the state of Israel against the Arabs, although I am sure that many on here applaud them. If you think that shelling schools full of children is OK, then don't expect my support. (That was not aimed at you personally John) This does not mean that I am against people who follow the Jewish religion.

The other thing I often wonder is when certain people call others anti semitic but express just the same views about the followers of Islam and that's OK.

Maybe I should make my own video.

[Ken L]

Ken

Did the people in that video look like they were looking to destroy your culture and rape your children?

You've been watching too much Infowars.

A free lunch (and house and car and clothes and medical care and education) is a powerful driver for people who have no intention of ever working for a living.

Cultures are destroyed when people come in and pillage them and then replace them - ethnically, religiously and linguistically, marginalising and then erasing the people who originally lived in a place - but living in a rural, mostly white and affluent part of France after moving from a rural mostly white and affluent part of Scotland, you doubtless find it hard to believe that that is happening.

As for rape, there are at least tens of thousands and probably several hundreds of thousands of victims of rape gangs in England alone and more than 80% of the convicted rapists are called Mohammed.

[Ken L]

We deserve to be invaded our culture destroyed and our children raped anybody who rapes anybody black or white is scum and should be dealt with accordingly our culture destroyed interesting one that one exactly what do you mean by that , and invaded by who exactly and you do know that 10% of the UK population British nationals over 5 .5 million are living abroad .

When 41% of the population of our capital city were born abroad I think that constitutes an invasion.

[gozzer]

I have been called plenty of abusive names because I voted leave Dave, often on here. Whenever I post on this thread I try to post a balanced reply, based on my opinion/experience, (even if it is regarded as irrelevant by some). I sometimes fail, but I do always listen to the opinion of others.

As for Pat Condell, you've obviously listened to him, and formed an opinion. I have listened, and agree with some of what he says, but not everything. That is what I was trying to get over in my post, I wasn't offering a critique of his video, or it's content, just saying that if people don't listen to the views of others, how can they form an opinion of them?

It's a sad fact that many people don't listen, but still have an opinion, usually based on headlines, or social media, but rarely an opinion that they have formulated themselves.

 

If you feel strongly enough about it, then why don't you make a video/blog, stating your views? You might even sway some people around to your 'side'. If you do though, you'd better be prepared for abuse on a scale that makes AN look like a vicars tea party.

 

John.

[Phone]

All,

 

Ken, The Nordic model is the economic and social models of the Nordic countries (Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland). During most of the post-war era, Sweden was governed by the Swedish Social Democratic Party largely in cooperation with trade unions and industry.

 

Sucessful societies have live under many forms of goverance. JMHO, far more goes into "success" than government.

 

For example, Despite shorter school days that are relatively few in number, Finland’s youth consistently outperform those in the United States, the European Union, and other nations with comparable ethnic and economic demographics (e.g., Norway; Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development [OECD]). An outgrowth of nearly 40 years of carefully constructed educational reform involving students, teachers, administrators, and government officials, Finland’s educational resilience is a source of national pride and global influence.

 

True transformation in human development and institutional function requires buy in from all stakeholders, ranging from individual community members to broader systems of policy and governance. It's a cop-out to say one or the other or something else and someone else is the problem.

 

In our cases (UK - USA) pure arce lazy play a huge role in the dole.

 

Phone

[Ken L]

Finland's kids are being groomed and raped too, closing the borders and exporting unwanted foreigners to an island where they can't do more harm is now accepted wisdom in Denmark and Sweden's progressive policies have bankrupted the country and made it the rape and grenade attack capital of Europe.

Norway meanwhile outwardly maintains some semblance of normality due to not being in the insane asylum that is the EU but even there, 100% of reported rapes in Oslo in the five years between 2005 and 2010 were committed by foreign men.

The Nordic dream is not what it once was.