NHS TO BE NO MORE

[chesters1]

the whole money system is a con ,when shares get very high the rich flog them then cause a crash so they can buy them back for a pittance ,watch the stock exchange when its gets to 6000 the shares are pretty high then there will be a slump but gradually climb back again ,theres mutterings when the share price is low but its quiet when their high enough to sell.

big companies will buy small companies grabbing their shares,its all artificial all run by whispers.recessions are just the rich getting ritcher off the back of the poor who get poorer ,been going on since we had money or goods to make profits on.

browne and all his cronies most probably made a pretty penny when the crash came ,it would be interesting to see their bank accounts we know how much they officially have been paid

Edited February 22, 2011 by chesters1

[big_cod]

the whole money system is a con ,when shares get very high the rich flog them then cause a crash so they can buy them back for a pittance ,watch the stock exchange when its gets to 6000 the shares are pretty high then there will be a slump but gradually climb back again ,theres mutterings when the share price is low but its quiet when their high enough to sell.

big companies will buy small companies grabbing their shares,its all artificial all run by whispers.recessions are just the rich getting ritcher off the back of the poor who get poorer ,been going on since we had money or goods to make profits on

 

Chesters1 you are very bright man its the man with the most money wins .

 

paul.

[HERUTILUS]

Having just wathched the polotics show even i was taken back as to what i was about to see the tory health reforms are staggering doctors openly saying this is the end of the NHS as we know it.

The private sector is going cream off all the best bits and all leave the rest the whole thing hasnt been thought out properly its sending shivers down peoples spines this is what the torys have wanted for the last god knows how many years shocking to say the least hope you are all in bupa .

 

http://etonmess.blogspot.com/2010/11/end-o...ly-know-it.html

 

paul.

 

Dear B_C,

 

Well BC, it, the so-called NHS revamp, goes something like this, in my opinion at least?

 

Currently the old National Health Service is getting 'baddish' press, in fact it's always getting, some would say justfiably, 'baddish' press. But, it all depends on how you, I and the rest of the population perceive the creeds of 'socialism' & Gordon Brown's favourite, 're-distribution'. What the Coalition is attempting to do [it's a hopeless task, they'll never do it!] is to get the NHS, Royal Mail, I include BA, local government the rest of Labour's client state to operate using the manning levels & standards of efficiency[?] which would apply if those so named were operating within the private sector.

 

You see, whats crippling the NHS is the size & resultant £cost of its labour force. The NHS, at + or - 1,300,000 bodies, is the 4th 'biggest' employer in the WORLD, not the UK, not Europe, THE WORLD! Now, in consideration of this fact such as you & I have to make our minds up in terms of what we want the NHS to be. Do we want the NHS to be lean, well run, efficient & 'fit for purpose' [what an awful term that is?] or do we want it to continue as it is now; inefficient, unaffordable, grossly overstaffed, badly managed & forever cutting back on every damn thing except the number of managers employed, the cost of those managers, the cost of staff sicky days and all the rest?

 

As a bloke said in The Times some time ago, "The NHS is just a jobs agency that does a bit of health care on the side", I couldn't have put it better myself. Providing non-jobs is fine [but ONLY if you've got one of those non-jobs mind you!] but you're not going to get both (i.e.) Jobs for the boys & girls AND an efficient health service, free at point of delivery. Not one chance in hell mate, there's no longer enough of the old folding green.

 

Regards sincere,

 

The Reader.

[big_cod]

Dear B_C,

 

Well BC, it, the so-called NHS revamp, goes something like this, in my opinion at least?

 

Currently the old National Health Service is getting 'baddish' press, in fact it's always getting, some would say justfiably, 'baddish' press. But, it all depends on how you, I and the rest of the population perceive the creeds of 'socialism' & Gordon Brown's favourite, 're-distribution'. What the Coalition is attempting to do [it's a hopeless task, they'll never do it!] is to get the NHS, Royal Mail, I include BA, local government the rest of Labour's client state to operate using the manning levels & standards of efficiency[?] which would apply if those so named were operating within the private sector.

 

You see, whats crippling the NHS is the size & resultant £cost of its labour force. The NHS, at + or - 1,300,000 bodies, is the 4th 'biggest' employer in the WORLD, not the UK, not Europe, THE WORLD! Now, in consideration of this fact such as you & I have to make our minds up in terms of what we want the NHS to be. Do we want the NHS to be lean, well run, efficient & 'fit for purpose' [what an awful term that is?] or do we want it to continue as it is now; inefficient, unaffordable, grossly overstaffed, badly managed & forever cutting back on every damn thing except the number of managers employed, the cost of those managers, the cost of staff sicky days and all the rest?

 

As a bloke said in The Times some time ago, "The NHS is just a jobs agency that does a bit of health care on the side", I couldn't have put it better myself. Providing non-jobs is fine [but ONLY if you've got one of those non-jobs mind you!] but you're not going to get both (i.e.) Jobs for the boys & girls AND an efficient health service, free at point of delivery. Not one chance in hell mate, there's no longer enough of the old folding green.

 

Regards sincere,

 

The Reader.

 

Well my old friend you read this in the times but the times is what a tory paper do not belive everything you read in the papers they will twist and fib to get the political point across all can say when the tories have finished with nhs and they will tear it apart if they get there way it could be one biggist downfall of our generation people power i hope will prevent this to happen ask most people in the street if trust the tories with the NHS and anser is flatly no a lot of people now feel conned by how they voted in the last general election especially with liberals the forth coming council elections will prove this it will be damming for this coalition while 1000ss will put on the dole in a year or twos time a dangling tax cut carrot will suddenly appear just as god made little apples .

Mr cameron is blazing round the middle east with arms dealers what a muppet after whats going on out there a man with half a brain wouldnt have made that trip but does pig headed come to mind the son of thatcher he is.

 

 

paul.

Edited February 23, 2011 by big_cod

[HERUTILUS]

Well my old friend you read this in the times but the times is what a tory paper do not belive everything you read in the papers they will twist and fib to get the political point across all can say when the tories have finished with nhs and they will tear it apart if they get there way it could be one biggist downfall of our generation people power i hope will prevent this to happen ask most people in the street if trust the tories with the NHS and anser is flatly no a lot of people now feel conned by how they voted in the last general election especially with liberals the forth coming council elections will prove this it will be damming for this coalition while 1000ss will put on the dole in a year or twos time a dangling tax cut carrot will suddenly appear just as god made little apples .

Mr cameron is blazing round the middle east with arms dealers what a muppet after whats going on out there a man with half a brain wouldnt have made that trip but does pig headed come to mind the son of thatcher he is.

 

 

paul.

 

Hello Gang,

 

I've just spent over 30 minutes reading the 'NHS' threads, there's some good stuff in there, I only have this to say in response. Some of you have got it right, some of you have got it half right & a lot of you don't know what in the hell you're talking about!! But there's one thing you all have in common, I'm being serious here, you're all bloody comedians, Morecambe & Wise doesn't have a look in.

 

In my humble opinion there's only one bloke who's got it right (naturally!) and thats the member known as Heritulus.

 

Good night to you all.

 

Hertilus.

[chesters1]

i suggest MR Heritulus books himself into a certain service the NHS offer ,the one with the strange jackets and comfy rooms

[big_cod]

Hello Gang,

 

I've just spent over 30 minutes reading the 'NHS' threads, there's some good stuff in there, I only have this to say in response. Some of you have got it right, some of you have got it half right & a lot of you don't know what in the hell you're talking about!! But there's one thing you all have in common, I'm being serious here, you're all bloody comedians, Morecambe & Wise doesn't have a look in.

 

In my humble opinion there's only one bloke who's got it right (naturally!) and thats the member known as Heritulus.

 

Good night to you all.

 

Hertilus.

 

Like it.

 

paul.

[corydoras]

i suggest MR Heritulus books himself into a certain service the NHS offer ,the one with the strange jackets and comfy rooms

St James' Hospital in Southsea for example?

[chesters1]

this ones nice ,i was brought up in bromley but never connected bedlam and here ,OH the WWW what a boon it is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital

[corydoras]

this ones nice ,i was brought up in bromley but never connected bedlam and here ,OH the WWW what a boon it is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital

I do love the web for things like that. It's like having all the worlds' libraries at your finger tips. Sure, there is a lot of crap on the web but there's lots of good stuff too.