Disabled slur

[mr motorola]

If you REALLY want to go down the graphic route MrM, it is a very reasonable argument to say a man with no legs is MUCH easier to extract from a car than a man with legs.

 

As for your other 'arguments'......life doesn't revolve around YOU and what YOU want, get over it.

Are you refering to a man driving with no legs or a man with legs who has lost them?

 

And for what it's worth Phil , life dosen't revolve around me , it never has and never will.

 

But if you take pleasure in being contentious then so be it , if thats what rocks ya boat babeeee.

[Guest Brumagem Phil]

Are you refering to a man driving with no legs or a man with legs who has lost them?

 

And for what it's worth Phil , life dosen't revolve around me , it never has and never will.

 

But if you take pleasure in being contentious then so be it , if thats what rocks ya boat babeeee.

 

I'm talking about a man driving with no legs. Plenty of hand only operated cars. You assume that because you learned to drive a car with certain limbs doing certain things, thats the only or best way to do things. As normal drivers for example we brake with our right foot, but the most proficient way to use the brake is with ones left foot.

 

As for being contentious, its not me who is suggesting the less abled shouldn't drive, without any statistical evidence to back up his claims that they are a greater risk. You'll be telling us everyone over a certain age can't drive anymore next.

[mr motorola]

but the most proficient way to use the brake is with ones left foot.

Well that sounds like a good idea , and when the brakes fail and the car is still in gear it all adds to safe driving mate???!!!!

Playing musical feet sounds like a good idea when the car is stationary and engine turned off but i think i'll stink to the conventional way thanks.

 

BTW , i know what you're on about as i've already done it Phil , screeching around corners at 140mph in a safe racing environment .

[Steve Walker]

If EVERYONE refused to break the speed limits, and obeyed road signs, the death rate in this country would plummet PERIOD!

 

If everyone obeyed the speed limits, it would drop by less than 5%. Now if everyone drove at an appropriate speed for the conditions, matched speed to visibility and concentrated on what they were bloody well doing, then it would plummet (and we could abolish speed limits and put the camera operators on the dole!).

[Guest Rabbit]

If everyone obeyed the speed limits, it would drop by less than 5%. Now if everyone drove at an appropriate speed for the conditions, matched speed to visibility and concentrated on what they were bloody well doing, then it would plummet (and we could abolish speed limits and put the camera operators on the dole!).

Not quite so confident as you,and if as you say road deaths would drop ONLY 5% if we all obeyed speed limits then thats another 150 people that would live, (assuming a total of 3,000 road fatalaties every year) then in my opinion thats a very worthwhile amount.

How then your theory of driving at an appropiate speed would reduce deaths I am not sure. One mans appropiate speed is another mans accident, most of us think we are more than capable of fast safe diving but few seldom are.

In spite all the focus on mobile phones in cars I still see a lot of drivers ignoring this law, some proof that drivers are irresponsible, despite the obvious peril in using the things while driving.

[Ken L]

But would it be deemed 'reasonable' to believe that in an accident of sorts (overturned car with fire and petrol spilling out), that a disabled driver would be far worse of at escaping from the car? Thus endangering the fire / ambulance / police crews on hand .

 

You seem to have changed tracks and gone from arguing that a disabled driver is a danger to themselves and other road users to saying that they're harder to rescue and that this alone should ban them from driving.

If you want to go down that route, you'd do better looking at the tens of thousandans of ignorant idiots who drive around with a "Baby on board" sticker when they don't have a baby on board. These things are there to alert rescue personell to the fact that there might be a small body down behind the seats or in a footwell. They spend time searching the vehicle for the "Baby on board" and should it go Kaboom.........

[Steve Walker]

How then your theory of driving at an appropiate speed would reduce deaths I am not sure.

 

Simply because according to the police accident investigators, relatively few accidents are caused by exceeding the posted limit. Plenty are caused by excessive speed for the conditions within the speed limit. Far too many people have been brainwashed into thinking that obeying a number on a stick is the be-all and end-all of driving safely. It isn't. The most common cause of road accidents is failing to look properly.

 

if as you say road deaths would drop ONLY 5% if we all obeyed speed limits then thats another 150 people that would live

 

They'd also live if people used their brains and drove at an appropriate speed for the conditions.

[snakey1]

You seem to have changed tracks and gone from arguing that a disabled driver is a danger to themselves and other road users to saying that they're harder to rescue and that this alone should ban them from driving.

If you want to go down that route, you'd do better looking at the tens of thousandans of ignorant idiots who drive around with a "Baby on board" sticker when they don't have a baby on board. These things are there to alert rescue personell to the fact that there might be a small body down behind the seats or in a footwell. They spend time searching the vehicle for the "Baby on board" and should it go Kaboom.........

Nah Mr M doesn't want the disabled banned from driving because if they were there would be no need for disabled parking bays and then where would he park his van when he goes shopping, he would have to compete with the rest of the shoppers, he'd also lose out on all the fun he has telling other shoppers who question his right to use said bays to f**k off.

Edited November 14, 2007 by snakey1

[snakey1]

I most certainly do mate.

 

And drive it with the upmost of pride.

Explains a lot.

[chesters1]

i think some think the disabled are some sort of person that needs molly coddling and in a car crash become suddenly made of stone ,heres a chap with a disability tell him he shouldnt get out and about if you can catch him

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/14/business/track.php

 

white van man thinks everyone is disabled except him ,you see them parked in bus lanes the country over ,perhaps those naughty disabled parking on yellows are in fact taking up his space

Edited November 14, 2007 by chesters1