E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[Tigger]

It seems everyone i've spoken to in person are voting "BREXIT", great stuff, so long as the ballet boxes don't get tamperd with!

[Ken L]

It seems everyone i've spoken to in person are voting "BREXIT", great stuff, so long as the ballet boxes don't get tamperd with!

See post #22.

 

Even if the vote is fair, I suspect that the screws will be turned and then we'll be given the opportunity to vote again, and again until we make the right choice.

[barry luxton]

 

BRUSSELS bulldozed headfirst into Britain’s democracy today as Jean-Claude Juncker’s right-hand man ordered Britons NOT to vote for Boris Johnson if he becomes Tory leader.

 

The EU boss’ chief bureaucrat described the prospect of the Eurosceptic MP becoming the next prime minister as a “horror scenario” and urged UK voters to “fight populism”.

 

Unelected, unaccountable Martin Selmayr’s outrageous comments, made on his Twitter account, attracted a storm of criticism from top-tier Eurosceptics who said he should not be trying to influence the outcome member states’ elections.

 

They were also quick to point out what a disaster the EU was under Juncker.

 

In an outspoken Tweet sent from today’s meeting of the G7 leaders in Japan,

 

Mr Selmayr described the prospect of Mr Johnson, Donald Trump, French Front National leader Marine Le Pen and Italian Eurosceptic Beppe Grillo being future representatives as a “horror scenario”

 

He wrote: “#G7 with Trump, Le Pen, Boris Johnson, Beppe Grillo?

 

A horror scenario that shows well why it is worth fighting populism.”

 

He signed off with the hashtag #WithJuncker in a show of support for the beleaguered EU Commission president, who has overseen the most disastrous period in the 28-nation bloc’s history.

[leedafeeder]

GM foods are a huge issue for me-Europe has so far banned the production of them.If its a choice of EU or US influenced farming production methods,then I'll vote to stay IN.

[barry luxton]

The Sunday Times has a great scoop: leaked cables reveal UK diplomats have discussed visa liberalisation for Turks coming to Britain, despite David Cameron’s pledge that “we won’t be offering visa-free access to Turks”. And there’s more…

 

Guido has been passed the cache of diplomatic cables. The telegram below is marked “Official – sensitive” and was sent by British diplomats in Kosovo to the Foreign Office. It reveals the European Commission plotted to “slipstream” visa liberalisation for Kosovo “behind Turkey”, because “1.8 million Kosovars” are “a drop in that larger ocean” by comparison. A stunning admission of the huge scale of potential new immigration – and collusion to play down the impact…

 

The cable also admits the obvious, that “some will… abuse the system”. Privately British diplomats are talking about 1.8 million Kosovars as a “drop in the ocean” compared to potential Turkish immigration. Yet they are planning visa-free access for Turks – and Dave wants you to believe this isn’t an issue in the referendum…

 

Davy boy obviously doesn't think he should warn of these kind of dangers of remaining.

[Sportsman]

And so the fear ploy continues unabated

[chesters1]

GM foods are a huge issue for me-Europe has so far banned the production of them.If its a choice of EU or US influenced farming production methods,then I'll vote to stay IN.

Its not the food aspect thats alarming its the interaction with similar species i worry about ,untainted wild maize is now gone even in the andes and its openly experimented here .

When we were living in the camper we walked a great deal and discovered several fields of gm crops ,all had 4ft rabbit proof fences but ofcourse its not rabbits we should be worried about its pollen etc

I expect the rules about interaction are pretty lax and ofcourse once its in the wild retrospect isnt much use ,take soya for instance its here to stay and theres nothing the EU can do about it as its so widespread

Monsanto at its finest!

 

Weve been gene manipulating for eons but now its done in a generation ,if its let loose it spreads very quickly if its not in a way the offspring are sterile

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_genetically_modified_organisms_in_the_European_Union

 

You cant just ban GM if in 25 years its found to be killing people ,at least with smoking ,radium and asbestos etc you can but you cant turn back the tide when the native crops are tainted ,that seed bank we have will be the only untainted supply if it goes tits up

 

We do lots of things without thinking ,unless our steel is made from ore or pre 1945 its tainted from our atom bombs and unsuitable for certain uses ,recycling isnt always a good thing

Hopefully my bucket of old lead is worth more than modern lead!

Edited June 12, 2016 by chesters1

[RUDD]

If UEFA kick England out of the Euros I suspect many minds will be made up.

[Phone]

All,

 

Serious (for a change).

 

Article in this months Fortune is interesting. (p.10)

 

Phone

[Ken L]

GM foods are a huge issue for me-Europe has so far banned the production of them.If its a choice of EU or US influenced farming production methods,then I'll vote to stay IN.

You might want to consider who has just bought Monsanto and look into the implications of TTIP.