E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[barry luxton]

How does our Prime Minister get unelected? I'm shocked that you need to ask.

Tell us all the value of the Kinnock within the black hole money pit he was taken on to expose e u corruption what has he achieved for the tax payer.

 

today he is spouting off that the northern cities of the u k will be wastelands if we leave. Freighters or facts? Bearing in mind his tax payer funded pension is subject to him saying nice things about the e u.

 

Quitting the European Union risks turning the North into a 1980s-style wasteland and leaving the UK's largest cities facing "serious economic danger", Labour will warn.

 

In a day of intensive campaigning to win over wavering party supporters, Gordon Brown and Neil Kinnock and the leaders of the largest councils outside London will insist that working people would be hit hardest by Brexit.

 

One thing that is abundantly clear with these guys, collectively they all have tax payer funded careers, life styles and expenses and pension pots. Does it not screem at you that this is what they really want to protect, no? then your bonkers. tell us why.

Edited June 16, 2016 by barry luxton

[Ken L]

Lots of violence in Lille last night.

I can't stand football or the dickheads involved in these confrontations but one has to wonder what the effect on the EU referendum will be if England are chucked out of the tournament.

[Andrew]

IS THE SURVEY WRONG ?

[gozzer]

I've not had anyone from either side post something through my letterbox or knock my door yet.

 

I'm surprised at that Cory, a partial waste of £9 million, if they didn't reach everyone.

 

I saw the TV ad for the Remain side last night, then heard it on the radio later, does anyone know if it's like the party political broadcasts, and each side gets a go? If not, who's paying for them?

 

John.

[corydoras]

Easy, we deselect him as an MP at the next general election. A process completely independent of the internal machinations of his party.

This is direct and democratic accountability in action.

Last time I checked, there was no direct way to deselect an EU commissioner.

 

So, as I was saying...."How do they get unelected?"

They serve a fixed five year term Ken, you should know that.

[corydoras]

I'm surprised at that Cory, a partial waste of £9 million, if they didn't reach everyone.

 

I saw the TV ad for the Remain side last night, then heard it on the radio later, does anyone know if it's like the party political broadcasts, and each side gets a go? If not, who's paying for them?

 

John.

Apart from that one John, I'd forgotton about that.

[chesters1]

IS THE SURVEY WRONG ?

Its refreshing to know MORI have counted every EU member coming and leaving the UK And even more refreshing they did the same with every NON EU member crossing the border whether in daylight or darkness ,the government should do the same!

Its impossible to know the figures until recently we didnt count those going out so who knows whos here even in the last decade

We used to get an influx of 30,000 + into the village every year for ramadam etc from all parts of the world who knows how many didnt return?!

The same can be said of the uni i worked in at least 10% turned up for a lecture or two or didnt turn up at all ,add that to every other uni ,college and so called places of places of learning and theres a lot of unknown residents there ,plus those with work permits who disapear ,how does MORI do all this research ?

They are not going to get accurate figures from border control so they must have people with clipboards at every access point in the country plus one every 100 yards on the coast 24/7

37% of those living in london were born outside the UK ,thats a fair few just there and thats obviasly the ones with right to be here ,those with no right aint going to be filling in census forms

Edited June 16, 2016 by chesters1

[Sportsman]

I'm surprised at that Cory, a partial waste of £9 million, if they didn't reach everyone.

 

I saw the TV ad for the Remain side last night, then heard it on the radio later, does anyone know if it's like the party political broadcasts, and each side gets a go? If not, who's paying for them?

 

John.

Don't know about ads but I saw Mr Gove on TV answering questions yesterday evening.

The problem was that whatever the question the answer was the same and had nothing whatever to do with the question.

One of the most cynical displays I have seen recently.

Do politicians think we are idiots?

Are they right?

[gozzer]

Yup, it was the same with 'call me Dave' the other day, I try not to watch the things, the responses are so predictable.

 

The one I mean, is more like a party political broadcast, with Alan Sugar leading several well known figures, such as Steven Hawkins, Sharon Brady, etc, all telling us how it will be bad for the country if we leave. I just wondered if it was the only one, or are both sides to have a go. If it's the only one then I'd like to know who was paying for it. If the Government, then we as tax payers, will be funding those arguing against us, if the BBC, the we as licence payers are footing the bill, If it's private enterprise, then I couldn't argue with it. I'm prepared to accept the decision of the majority, which ever way it goes, obviously happier with a Brexit vote. But, while trading lies and half truths with each other is one thing, and having the tax payer fund the 'Remain' groups campaign to the tune of £9 million is bad enough, but it's rubbing salt in the wound having to pay for TV, and Radio propaganda as well.

 

John.

[gozzer]

Is this woman for real?

I'm not usually shocked or disgusted by events, or opinions, but this woman makes even me retch at her words.

To use the violent, tragic, death of a respected MP, wife, and mother, to score points against those who think differently to her, is the lowest of the low. I've never had much time for Toynbee, but she has sunk even deeper in my opinion of her.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/16/mood-ugly-mp-dead-jo-cox

 

John.