E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[chesters1]

Vote leave fined and also found to be breaking electoral law and has been referred to the police and anybody who is found to be guilty should be prosecuted accordingly.

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vote-leave-brexit-fine-police-electoral-commission-spending-latest-a8450466.html

Cod says this link is lies

[chesters1]

As we all know buiseness has kept extremely silent until now and now the reality of brexit is everybodys face including hundreds of thousands if not millions who prior to a month or so ago didnt realise there jobs could well be a risk they do now you see if may not affect you directly is your job on the line with brexit obviously not so here we have people were not told the truth with brexit infact they were lied to but its now all there for all to see as for voting for the Lib Dems if there were the party screaming for brexit prior to the referendum brexit very likely would not have happed .

If you didnt vote for the liberals (the only party with a manifesto of staying) then you obviously are happy to leave

As to the hundreds of thousands or millions wheres the data collected to back this up? Some mate told you?

Provide the link to the referendum taken of all workers that show such a thing

Edited July 17, 2018 by chesters1

[gozzer]

As we all know buiseness has kept extremely silent until now and now the reality of brexit is everybodys face including hundreds of thousands if not millions who prior to a month or so ago didnt realise there jobs could well be a risk they do now you see if may not affect you directly is your job on the line with brexit obviously not so here we have people were not told the truth with brexit infact they were lied to but its now all there for all to see as for voting for the Lib Dems if there were the party screaming for brexit prior to the referendum brexit very likely would not have happed .

 

Paul, I despair at some of your reasoning, and comments. Do you really think that all the misleading 'facts', and lies that were uttered, only came from the leave camp? If so, you have a very short and selective memory.

How many of the remain camp, gave any positives about remaining in the EU, prior to the referendum? I remember very few, and that includes the £9 million, of our money, spent by Cameron & Co, trying to scare the crap out of anyone daring to even think about voting leave. Some, and it looks like you included, believed all those threats, and lies, some of us didn't.

As to your last line, how in anyway is that an answer to the question HV asked, or indeed I asked, earlier in the thread?

The Lib Dems were the only major party that almost completely opposed Brexit from before the referendum, and campaigned for a second referendum during the General Election. Now if that were the priority for the majority of the electorate, as you keep saying, then surely they would have done much better than the miserable result they ended up with!

 

John.

Edited July 17, 2018 by gozzer

[chesters1]

Here it is and was the manifesto in the last election

https://www.libdems.org.uk/europe-policy

If you voted labour or conservative you wanted to leave ,nothing more to say other than only the stupid that voted for a party telling the voter they will respect the referendum and leave then complains the party they voted for is going to leave ! DUH!

Edited July 17, 2018 by chesters1

[big_cod]

 

Paul, I despair at some of your reasoning, and comments. Do you really think that all the misleading 'facts', and lies that were uttered, only came from the leave camp? If so, you have a very short and selective memory.

How many of the remain camp, gave any positives about remaining in the EU, prior to the referendum? I remember very few, and that includes the £9 million, of our money, spent by Cameron & Co, trying to scare the crap out of anyone daring to even think about voting leave. Some, and it looks like you included, believed all those threats, and lies, some of us didn't.

As to your last line, how in anyway is that an answer to the question HV asked, or indeed I asked, earlier in the thread?

The Lib Dems were the only major party that almost completely opposed Brexit from before the referendum, and campaigned for a second referendum during the General Election. Now if that were the priority for the majority of the electorate, as you keep saying, then surely they would have done much better than the miserable result they ended up with!

 

John.

Now if the lib dems had promised hugh tax cuts to everyone in the last election they still wouldnt have made the government things have changed dramatically in the last 3 months as the days get closer to doomsday you will see more and more revolt to brexit 27-1 and our biggest trading partner and we are going to walk away with a no deal because thats exactly how it will play out cant wait if jobs go there will be hell to pay this government are clueless they dont know what they want from brexit the circus just goes on and on and on another stark warning from the Bank of England yesterday if we have a no deal brexit but the brexiteers will just say scaremongering . Edited July 18, 2018 by big_cod

[chesters1]

No deal is a good deal

[gozzer]

Now if the lib dems had promised hugh tax cuts to everyone in the last election they still wouldnt have made the government things have changed dramatically in the last 3 months as the days get closer to doomsday you will see more and more revolt to brexit 27-1 and our biggest trading partner and we are going to walk away with a no deal because thats exactly how it will play out cant wait if jobs go there will be hell to pay this government are clueless they dont know what they want from brexit the circus just goes on and on and on another stark warning from the Bank of England yesterday if we have a no deal brexit but the brexiteers will just say scaremongering .

 

Why do you rarely answer a question Paul?

If I'm thought of as stupid, it won't be because I voted Brexit. It will be because I continue to try and get a straight answer from you.

What's changed dramatically in the last 3 months? It's still the same subject, and you who voted remain are supposed to be that clued up on the consequences, nothing should surprise you. You've had it all sussed out for the last 2 years, possibly longer. If you believe that then why wasn't there more mention of the positives before the referendum? It's a simple question, that you don't seem to want to answer.

Could it possibly be because you didn't know any more than anyone else, and for the last 2 years all you've done on here is repeat sensational headlines, and soundbites you've got from a bias media?

 

The lib dems have been anti Brexit all along, not just during the last election. So they stood on the same platform for both. I didn't mention them getting into Government, just doing better than they did, especially when they represented (what you claim to be), the feelings of the majority.

 

John.

[Phone]

Gozzer,

 

I believe you've made an admission of guilt.

 

Phone

[Ken L]

Well done Boris:

[gozzer]

Gozzer,

 

I believe you've made an admission of guilt.

 

Phone

 

If you mean admitting that I'm mad for reading this thread, and even more so for contributing to it, then I plead 'Guilty as charged', M'lud.

 

John.