Scotland

[chesters1]

browns got an image? toad is all i see call me a bogot all you like but all i see is a toad a slimey one at that

Edited September 17, 2014 by chesters1

[gozzer]

common sense says someone that lies for money or power will lie again.are there still people that believe mps give a crap for anyone but themselves?

 

i take that back theres a great number of people who think they do ,amazing perhaps derren brown coaches mps to fool people please tell me their not simply gullible fools

 

It's a 50-50 chance that they do.....or don't

 

John.

[chesters1]

you could be 50/50 right or wrong there

[Vagabond]

That's called 'passion' Dave, something that's lacking in the materialistic, "I'm alright Jack", politics of today.

Well, you can call it "passion". I would call it self-delusion at best and deliberate lies at worst - just like religious zealots everywhere.

 

 

I remember Brown being "passionate" about "small businesses" (pronounced as he had a mouthful of marbles) and bringing in measures that crippled many of them. Our business survived, no thanks to Brown and Darling, but many didn't.

 

I'm just amazed that anyone gives the slightest credence to anything Brown might say on economics.

Edited September 17, 2014 by Vagabond

[Phone]

Vagabond,

 

Let me guess - if said person were to spout, "all babies are born necked" - - you would disagree.

 

Phone

(I know nothing and didn't watch the clip)

[Andrew]

[Vagabond]

Let me guess - if said person were to spout, "all babies are born necked" - - you would disagree.

Not necessarily, but I would suspect the remark to be related to a planned tax on shirt collars.

[barry luxton]

heard it here first folks:

 

http://undergroundmgzn.com/2014/09/15/exclusive-alex-salmond-birth-certificate-reveals-born-essex/

 

“Although, funnily enough, whenever he got drunk he’d slip into this real Essex wideboy voice,” she added. “And there was always a rumour that he had a tattoo of Thatcher.”

Edited September 18, 2014 by barry luxton

[Sportsman]

How strange

I actually went to Broomfield Primary school in the 1950s and I don't remember him

[gozzer]

Well, you can call it "passion". I would call it self-delusion at best and deliberate lies at worst - just like religious zealots everywhere.

 

 

I remember Brown being "passionate" about "small businesses" (pronounced as he had a mouthful of marbles) and bringing in measures that crippled many of them. Our business survived, no thanks to Brown and Darling, but many didn't.

 

I'm just amazed that anyone gives the slightest credence to anything Brown might say on economics.

 

Knowing you from past conversations, I wouldn't expect anything else Dave. At times we all see what we are looking for in situations like this. I see a man passionate about his homeland, you see a self-deluded, possible liar. I didn't see this as a purely political speech, but more of a rallying cry to help protect the future of a country, his country. A rousing speech from a man who I feel is nearing political retirement, and has little to gain personally, from what's been described as the best speech of his career.

I've always found Brown to be a man out of his time, an 'old Labour' man trying to wear a 'new Labour' mans shoes. Out of his time, and often out of his depth. If he had been about 50 odd years earlier, then I feel he would have been regarded differently.

 

 

Before anyone jumps on the " he sold off our gold", well, there wasn't much left to sell, Maggie had seen to that.

 

John.