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  1. 1. should the u k remain in or leave the E U

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Do like this poll from smt's link:

 

I make it a slam dunk result.

 

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/do-you-think-leaving-the-european-union-will-ultimately-be-good-or-bad-for-the-uk-in-10-20-years-time/

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I cant work out what you leavers are frightened of with a second referendum whats the problem brexit is best thing since sliced bread its says it everyday in the express so you have absolutely nothing to worry about gentlemen .

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big_cod, on 11 Nov 2017 - 11:04, said:

I cant work out what you leavers are frightened of with a second referendum whats the problem brexit is best thing since sliced bread its says it everyday in the express so you have absolutely nothing to worry about gentlemen .

 

 

give us a link to frightened brexiteers how many are they?

 

And would you mind your income tax bill going upwards to pay for it? Cameron, without asking the u k taxpayers had a 10 million tax payer funded remain pamphlet produced in Germany. Who would you want to commission another pamphlet, may or corbyn.

 

How many referendums would you suggest? Best of 3?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I cant work out what you leavers are frightened of with a second referendum whats the problem brexit is best thing since sliced bread its says it everyday in the express so you have absolutely nothing to worry about gentlemen .

Nobody's scared of a second referendum but how about a third or a fourth or a fifth and on and on there's always going to be a minority that lost how many times should we hold a referendum to please that minority (remain or leave it doesn't matter) ? As many times as it takes to get 100% agreement ? There was the referendum and leave won, then there was a general election where as stated by others on here the only party that offered a second referendum and an option to stay was the lib Dems and they won 12 out of 650 seats so hardly a vote to stay.

Let's just suppose you get a second one and remain win, how long do those who voted leave have to wait before they are entitled to demand a third referendum to as you say "put things to bed" and after the results of that how long before someone demands a fourth.

There was a vote remain lost, if people couldnt be bothered to vote tough that's hard luck, if people on either side didn't understand the question (which was pretty simple really in or out) tough.

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snakey1, on 11 Nov 2017 - 11:34, said:

Nobody's scared of a second referendum but how about a third or a fourth or a fifth and on and on there's always going to be a minority that lost how many times should we hold a referendum to please that minority (remain or leave it doesn't matter) ? As many times as it takes to get 100% agreement ? There was the referendum and leave won, then there was a general election where as stated by others on here the only party that offered a second referendum and an option to stay was the lib Dems and they won 12 out of 650 seats so hardly a vote to stay.

Let's just suppose you get a second one and remain win, how long do those who voted leave have to wait before they are entitled to demand a third referendum to as you say "put things to bed" and after the results of that how long before someone demands a fourth.

There was a vote remain lost, if people couldnt be bothered to vote tough that's hard luck, if people on either side didn't understand the question (which was pretty simple really in or out) tough.

these two countries voted no, amongst others, didn't make any difference to the power hungry mandarins though:

 

http://www.economist.com/node/4033308

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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I cant work out what you leavers are frightened of with a second referendum whats the problem brexit is best thing since sliced bread its says it everyday in the express so you have absolutely nothing to worry about gentlemen .

 

When would you propose we stop having referendums on the same question? Is it only when the result is what you want it to be?

 

Let's pretend that we have another referendum and the vote is to stay - what then?

 

Do the leavers then bleat and whinge as many remainers have done up to now until we have another referendum?

 

We had the referendum. You had your chance. You lost. Get over it.

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Nobody's scared of a second referendum but how about a third or a fourth or a fifth and on and on there's always going to be a minority that lost how many times should we hold a referendum to please that minority (remain or leave it doesn't matter) ? As many times as it takes to get 100% agreement ? There was the referendum and leave won, then there was a general election where as stated by others on here the only party that offered a second referendum and an option to stay was the lib Dems and they won 12 out of 650 seats so hardly a vote to stay.

Let's just suppose you get a second one and remain win, how long do those who voted leave have to wait before they are entitled to demand a third referendum to as you say "put things to bed" and after the results of that how long before someone demands a fourth.

There was a vote remain lost, if people couldnt be bothered to vote tough that's hard luck, if people on either side didn't understand the question (which was pretty simple really in or out) tough.

Just As I thought worried on a final referendum just 1 on what people actually now know what awaits them because most had no idea of the complexity of brexit and just what awaits them now if you think brexit will cruise home nothing what so ever to worry about have we thats unless the penny has dropped and the people realise brexit is not what they were told it was going be dead easy final referendum will sort it once and for all .no more lies from farage to con the people the my job done man who still continues to take £100,000 + a year snake . Edited by big_cod

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

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Just As I thought worried on a final referendum just 1 on what people actually now know what awaits them because most had no idea of the complexity of brexit and just what awaits them now if you think brexit will cruise home nothing what so ever to worry about have we thats unless the penny has dropped and the people realise brexit is not what they were told it was going be dead easy final referendum will sort it once and for all .no more lies from farage to con the people the my job done man who takes £100,000 + a year snake .

But why just one more, why should that be final why not another and another ad infinitum. What if remain lose again would you stop whining? Would you feck it'd be just "oh but people didn't understand what they were voting for we need another to make sure" etc etc and on into the night. Remain lost get over it. Plus what do you think Europe will do if there was a decision to change our minds, just how much do you think it would cost us financially and politically, do you honestly think the eu is going to say ok and welcome us back with open arms all is forgiven things can just stay as they are, ****** they're going to want concessions and further integration and more money than ever before, they're going to punish us for daring to say no to them in the first place.

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All,

 

Recent U.S. perspective. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/brexit-hardliners-are-selling-england-by-the-pound-2017-11-09?siteid=rss&rss=1

 

Maybe a news source you don't often get to read.

 

Phone

The clue is in the subtitle Phone; "Stocks are rising." With the FTSE trading around a Thirtyfive year high there are lots of individuals, groups and consortiums that are more than happy to carry on speculating and creating uncertainty simply because they profit from it.

 

In the Marr interview I recently commented on, Jeremy Corbyn makes it quite clear of his intentions, LEAVE The Single Market, LEAVE The Customs Union and negotiate trade deals. What or where is that different?

 

On the subject of WTO rules and who the UK might be trading with post Brexit, that in reality is very simple, the U.K. Can trade with every country they presently trade with, with the exception of the EU member states, whom in order to trade with us, well, that statement does not require completion. Simply to sell things to us they have to agree to buy things from us.

 

There is also a sentance in that piece with a lot of weight. "While youd expect all European assets to suffer if this happens, "

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