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  1. 1. should the u k remain in or leave the E U

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Thats my point ,if you dont exploit workers the company will fold or move ,governments historically give incentives to help balance the cost .

Unions dont help the more they want better working conditions and more pay the more the company wish to avoid doing so by moving to places where such things dont exist.

Yes the companies are greedy ,yes the workers want decent wages and conditions but the company has to make a profit or its pointless running one ,we can all live without nissan cars they are only here because of incentives not loyalty if they get to much hassel from unions or govdrnment other countries will welcome them with open arms and they know it

 

Tax credits are in work benefits theres no difference its still government propping up industry that can easily go elswhere ,before it was called working tax credit it was called income tax and yes you can claim for kids and being married and pay less back then ,its really not a new idea and remember the tories reintroduced marriage tax allowance unfortunately its not deducted as the norm from your tax as of old but its there

Labours working family tax credit wasnt new it just was another name for family tax credit ,all governments give with one hand and take with the other all are as bad as each other

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It has been announced today we will have £100 billion blackhole with brexit in the next 5 years lookingmore and more like a mistake !!

 

Wee the public informed by farage and co that this was possible NO it wasn't !!!

 

And also we going into more debht figures released show this government is actually increasing our debht they have failed .

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Questions now being asked what sweetness did nisan receive to stop them pulling out of the uk the knoos is tightening how can they get sweeteners when other company's get non .

 

This government haven't got a strategy for brexit they haven't a clue what's lieing in wait mrs may could be history sooner than you think .

 

 

ask away, the answer has already been given, did you miss it? The government said no cheque book was used.

 

And did you also miss, Asda announced 3 p off fuel costs this week.

 

Opec are struggling to get everyone onboard to raise the cost of a barrel of oil.

 

More good news big cod, just trying to help you out from your misery btw:

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/retail-workers-among-those-enjoying-biggest-pay-rises-study-shows-11364113551246

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Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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ask away, the answer has already been given, did you miss it? The government said no cheque book was used.

 

And did you also miss, Asda announced 3 p off fuel costs this week.

 

Opec are struggling to get everyone onboard to raise the cost of a barrel of oil.

 

More good news big cod, just trying to help you out from your misery btw:

 

http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/retail-workers-among-those-enjoying-biggest-pay-rises-study-shows-11364113551246

Thhat settles it then. Maggie May wouldn't lie to us would she?

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Thhat settles it then. Maggie May wouldn't lie to us would she?

she would be a bit silly if she did, only having just got the job.

 

And if money had passed hands, who else is going to keep it a secret, Nissan?

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Did you vote to become poorer did the millions who voted brexit actually thought they were voting to become poorer em I don't think so .

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/philip-hammond-brexit-cabinet-divisions-economy-crash-eu-referendum-poorer-thats-what-they-voted-for-a7366456.html%3Famp

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/

Probably Whitby's most consistent charterboat

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I'm lovin' it!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-ukip-eu-money-misspending-eu-referendum-campaign-a7422471.html

 

Naughty Nigel. I thought you thought he gave it all to charity Barry?

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Did you vote to become poorer did the millions who voted brexit actually thought they were voting to become poorer em I don't think so .

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/philip-hammond-brexit-cabinet-divisions-economy-crash-eu-referendum-poorer-thats-what-they-voted-for-a7366456.html%3Famp

 

 

hummm bit confused with you b c, yesterday you quoted from the times, do you have their on line subscription? perhaps you can give us a link to yesterdays 100 million black hole spin? and today it's the independent, have you dropped the Robert Maxwell paper or is that one just for use in the kazie.

 

yes I voted to become poorer if you like, So perhaps you can point us in the direction of this newspaper 'report' to justify exactly how the u k is to become poorer. Have you seen last moths consumer spending? Is it the case of spend it while you can because there's no more money in the pot?

 

I'm lovin' it!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-ukip-eu-money-misspending-eu-referendum-campaign-a7422471.html

 

Naughty Nigel. I thought you thought he gave it all to charity Barry?

 

Really got a link to the political spend of the conservatives during their brexit campaign? Appears to be comical that this leak report condemns the little man by the auditors yet with the e u themselves the same auditors can't balance the books after 20 odd years, Is that why your loving it? what's going on, perhaps you can enlighten us.

Free to choose apart from the ones where the trust poked their nose in. Common eel. tope. Bass and sea bream. All restricted.


New for 2016 TAT are the main instigators for the demise of the u k bass charter boat industry, where they went screaming off to parliament and for the first time assisting so called angling gurus set up bass take bans with the e u using rubbish exaggerated info collected by ices from anglers, they must be very proud.

Upgrade, the door has been closed with regards to anglers being linked to the e u superstate and the failed c f p. So TAT will no longer need to pay monies to the EAA anymore as that org is no longer relevant to the u k . Goodbye to the europeon anglers alliance and pathetic restrictions from the e u.

Angling is better than politics, ban politics from angling.

Consumer of bass. where is the evidence that the u k bass stock need angling trust protection. Why won't you work with your peers instead of castigating them. They have the answer.

Recipie's for mullet stew more than welcomed.

Angling sanitation trust and kent and sussex sea anglers org delete's and blocks rsa's alternative opinion on their face book site. Although they claim to rep all.

new for 2014. where is the evidence that the south coast bream stock need the angling trust? Your campaign has no evidence. Why won't you work with your peers, the inshore under tens? As opposed to alienating them? Angling trust failed big time re bait digging, even fish legal attempted to intervene and failed, all for what, nothing.

Looks like the sea angling reps have been coerced by the ifca's to compose sea angling strategy's that the ifca's at some stage will look at drafting into legislation to manage the rsa, because they like wasting tax payers money. That's without asking the rsa btw. You know who you are..

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Yet another myth

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.

 

 

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Not the only ones benefitting from the slump.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-meps-british-european-parliament-pay-rise-pound-crash-euro-a7400696.html

 

Ukip’s 21 representatives in the European Parliament are dedicated campaigners for Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union.

However, despite achieving victory in the June referendum, they have continued to claim their salaries from the institution they worked against.

The figures were brought to light by Liberal Democrat MP Tom Brake, who told The Sunday Times: “While the fall in sterling is hitting families through higher prices in shops, Farage and his Ukip colleagues are enjoying a Brexit bonus worth thousands of pounds.

“Ukip MEPs claimed that voting ‘leave’ would put them out of a job; it’s time they honoured that promise and resigned, instead of milking the taxpayer to the bitter end.”

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