E U. Should we stay or should we leave.

[Andrew]

Cameron can be got rid of by a vote of no confidence by his fellow m p's he ain't out of the woods yet, another month and he may well be history.

 

 

Just like Maggie

[Ken L]

These bozos are proposed by elected EU parliaments and are then elected by the bozos we elect as MEPs. Tell me Ken , once we have voted for a PM how would we get rid of him before his term is up? As far as I am aware there are many countries where the President is immune from prosecution when he is in office, but can be prosecuted the moment his term is up. Jacques Chirac for example. EU Commissioners don't make laws, they propose them. The European Parliament who are elected by we the people make the laws. If you don't like what comes out of Europe why don't you go along to your MEP's surgery and talk to her rather than whinge about it on an internet forum?

 

My local MEP is James Carver.

You know, I think we might already be on the same wavelength.

[chesters1]

I dont have an mp or an mep as i would rather burn my soft dangly bit off than elect someone to have power over me but going by a previous one perhaps i am right.

http://www.farnhamherald.com/article.cfm?id=819&headline=Former MEP on fraud charges&searchyear=2014

 

Hmm the blue bit doesnt work so how come i found it?

 

Not got any faith in UKIP if they wanted out why are they not supplying wikileaks with all the proof of the corruption and all the while undermining it at every opertunity ,seems they are happy to take the pound of flesh and say "its not me i,m forced to go to the big dinners and line my pockets etc

All the rest just tuck their snouts in the trough and have no excuses to stop filling their bellies as its sanctioned by fools electing them to do it

Edited June 17, 2016 by chesters1

[Phone]

Chesters1,

 

A trick I often use. I forget to put a space AFTER the url.

 

Phone

[chesters1]

It was a cut and paste ,i guess because its an old story its diverted to the new ones on the site

 

Put the word ukip and fraud into a search engine and lots come up ,put councillor or mp and fraud and theres millions

http://www.petersfieldherald.com/article.cfm?id=593&headline=Euro MP swindled £73,000 in benefit fraud&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2007

 

Does exactly the same it goes to the main site not the url i copied and pasted from the page i was looking at

Edited June 18, 2016 by chesters1

[Sportsman]

Has truth become completely redundant in politics these days?

We have Trump in the USA telling the most outrageous and obvious lies and people lap it up. He said himself that he could gun someone down in the street and it wouldn't matter (and he's probably right)

In the UK we have BOTH sides of the referendum telling obvious and outrageous lies. Everybody (should) know that they are lies but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

I know that Politicians have always been economical with the truth but at least they used to try and hide the fact. Now they are just blatant and the great unwashed just chooses which lies appeal to them the most.

As has been said many times. The fact that someone wants to be a politician should result in a lifetime ban of them ever becoming one.

[gozzer]

Has truth become completely redundant in politics these days?

We have Trump in the USA telling the most outrageous and obvious lies and people lap it up. He said himself that he could gun someone down in the street and it wouldn't matter (and he's probably right)

In the UK we have BOTH sides of the referendum telling obvious and outrageous lies. Everybody (should) know that they are lies but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

I know that Politicians have always been economical with the truth but at least they used to try and hide the fact. Now they are just blatant and the great unwashed just chooses which lies appeal to them the most.

As has been said many times. The fact that someone wants to be a politician should result in a lifetime ban of them ever becoming one.

 

It's worse than usual because this is a one off Dave, if we stay in, or leave, that's it, the deed is done. It's going to be a hell of a long time, if ever, before anyone can do anything about it, so what's to lose.

We've got closer to the American style of negative campaigns, in the run up to general elections, and both sides have gone way over the top with the referendum. I fear it's a sign of things to come, all bluster, with very little relevant content. Still it seems that's all some want to hear.

 

John

[barry luxton]

mines Daniel Hannon, very articulate and comes across throughout this campaign as factual precise and very clear on the benefit of telling the e u experimenters of social engineering using tax payers money, to sling their hook.

 

and he wishes to save the u k tax payer monies by asking that all the u k mep's are made redundant.

Edited June 19, 2016 by barry luxton

[big_cod]

These are the latest bookies odds in the in-out referendum

 

IN 1/3 ON

 

OUT 9/4

 

The bookies must favour a lot of people bottleing it in the ballot box.

Edited June 19, 2016 by big_cod

[Steve Walker]

In the UK we have BOTH sides of the referendum telling obvious and outrageous lies. Everybody (should) know that they are lies but it doesn't seem to make any difference.

We've also got people who are perfectly capable of critical thinking suspending it when repeating the lies of the side they support (not talking about here, lots of it on Facebook).