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Is the the "pause BREXIT" topic?

 

There are compelling arguments both for and against unions. What we individually like or dislike is of little conquence.

In much of industrial America, workers long toiled under very unsafe conditions, earning extremely low pay and enjoying little to no legal protections. As much as I'd rather not accept it, while unions have done a lot of good and have helped workers avoid exploitation, they can also help workers exploit employers.

 

Been there - done that - from both sides.

 

I will congratulate you on the topic Unions good or bad is a topic that could well run longer than a BREXIT thread.

 

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Edit: My opinion - in 2019 I would argue that unions have led to a decline in the value of merit and ethics.

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Tiny inefectual unions ,try being forced to join the print unions just to get a job ,try being forced to be an FOC because your the only male on a typing pool floor or lose your job.

Sit listenening to men who wouldnt get a second glance out side of the union spend hours plotting traps to go on strike or make lists of white colour workers they want getting rid of because they wont do as the union say or just sit watching them jot down addresses of the top floor so they can hassel them at home.

Best thing got rid of was the closed shop ,maggie castrating them and if the tories had balls they would outlaw unions completely

Wheres your unions helping the miners ,the steel workers and british car companies all gone because the unions put the workers out of jobs by trying to get at the bosses for pure spite!

Unions who destroyed the mining industryit was the bloody Torys and the Steele industry remember those poor Nottinghamshire miners maggy stabbed them right in the back and unions destroyed mining a****s you worked down a pit Chesters you want to try it sometime again your living in the past so if you dont like it on yer bike it works both ways unions are there for variety of reasons to protect your rights and represent you legally if needed so an employer can bully somebody dont say it doesnt happen it happens all the time in the workplace unions in Nissan and many many other workplaces round the uk work in great harmony with the management in very successful companys i have seen those people who hate unions cry like a baby when told they are going down the road like everyone else when its your turn to get the bullet whether your in a union your or not your P45 awaits somehow those who hate unions think they are somehow invisibility when they are not and are just like everyone in the workplace just a number . Edited by big_cod

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Yes sticky finger scargill looked after the mine workers right up to when the last one got his P45 trying to bring down the government

Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

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Unions who destroyed the mining industryit was the bloody Torys and the Steele industry remember those poor Nottinghamshire miners maggy stabbed them right in the back and unions destroyed mining a****s you worked down a pit Chesters you want to try it sometime again your living in the past so if you dont like it on yer bike it works both ways unions are there for variety of reasons to protect your rights and represent you legally if needed so an employer can bully somebody dont say it doesnt happen it happens all the time in the workplace unions in Nissan and many many other workplaces round the uk work in great harmony with the management in very successful companys i have seen those people who hate unions cry like a baby when told they are going down the road like everyone else when its your turn to get the bullet whether your in a union your or not your P45 awaits somehow those who hate unions think they are somehow invisibility when they are not and are just like everyone in the workplace just a number .

 

Unions, waste of time. Out for themselves,

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Unions who destroyed the mining industryit was the bloody Torys and the Steele industry remember those poor Nottinghamshire miners maggy stabbed them right in the back and unions destroyed mining a****s you worked down a pit Chesters you want to try it sometime again your living in the past so if you dont like it on yer bike it works both ways unions are there for variety of reasons to protect your rights and represent you legally if needed so an employer can bully somebody dont say it doesnt happen it happens all the time in the workplace unions in Nissan and many many other workplaces round the uk work in great harmony with the management in very successful companys i have seen those people who hate unions cry like a baby when told they are going down the road like everyone else when its your turn to get the bullet whether your in a union your or not your P45 awaits somehow those who hate unions think they are somehow invisibility when they are not and are just like everyone in the workplace just a number .

 

Which union are you in then Paul?

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UBW union of blinker wearers

Or UMMS union of my mate says

Perhaps UHR union of headline readers?

 

Luckily the one (out of 2) i have been in has long had its balls removed unfortunately like most cancers it just moved and infected something else.

As to helping and protect members sogat actually 'advised' the managers to get rid of me ,a single white collar FOC on a floor of blue coller uspet their little applecart despite them arranging this high position to be implemented ,even at 16 i wasnt a yesman it annoyed them

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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Socialist /capitalist theres a difference.

If corbyn had his way anyone with a few quid would be taxed to the hilt and seeing capitalism runs on wealth all you will have left is socialism and you cannot seperate that and communism both are from the same source

Anyone with money will go and live in monarco leaving the uk to founder in the mire of state owned failure with unions destroying whats left

You can't separate Socialism from Communism. I know that there are a lot of Finns, Swedes and Norwegian who would say that you were talking rubbish. At least the "Communist" Norwgians were not stupid enough to urinate their oil revenue up against the wall, unlike every one of our government since oil in the North Sea was discovered.

 

Agree with Unions though. I had to join the bloody NUS. A useless organisation who were only interested in collecting their dues. I told them where to poke their "Political Lobby" at least I think that is what it was called. An extra payment you could make to fund the Labour Party.

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It was actually a comment rather than me saying theres a difference i forgot the question mark at the end!

There was the union block vote at the time aswell ,trouble is why should someone vote for a leader using my name,i dont vote for any bloody party at all!

 

USDAW the other union i had to join had then a seperate bit of your fee to support labour directly ,dont know if it still exists i left unions in the 70's

 

No i wasnt remarking that i was remarking it was a socialist capitalist society ,as you say socialism and communisms are branches on the same tree they just like to seperate themselves when its needed but the roots and stem are the same socialism may work for some but capitalism brings in the bucks! China isnt doing to bad from the hated capitalists ,you dont make much money from internal sales of rice !

 

As to the oil i have no preference in parties to blame ,rarely do governments remove laws they say are harmful they just blame the opposite party if they introduced them!

Did labour remove any 'harmful' laws introduced by the tories in the 18 years they had? In north sea oil waste they are all to blame

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Believe NOTHING anyones says or writes unless you witness it yourself and even then your eyes can deceive you

None of this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap it just means i have at least two enemies!

 

There is only one opinion i listen to ,its mine and its ALWAYS right even when its wrong

 

Its far easier to curse the darkness than light one candle

 

Mathew 4:19

Grangers law : anything i say will  turn out the opposite or not happen at all!

 

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

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